When you are working on a problem where you can't even evaluate the scoring function inside your AI - not even remotely close - you have to make some heuristics, some substitute scoring.

You're right, this is tricky because the self-optimizer thread (4) might have to call (3) a lot. Perhaps this can be fixed by giving the program more time to find self-optimizations. Or perhaps the program could use program (3)'s specification/source code rather than directly executing it, in order to figure out how to optimize it heuristically. Either way it's not perfect. At worst program (4) will just fail to find optimizations in the allowed time.

And once you have an AI inside your framework which is not maximizing the value that your framework is maximizing - it's potentially AI from my original post in your framework, getting out.

Ok, if you plopped your AI into my framework it would be terrible. But I don't see how the self-improvement process would spontaneously create an unfriendly AI.

The framework, as we already have established, would not keep an AI from maximizing what ever the AI wants to maximize.

The framework also does nothing to prevent AI from creating a more effective problem solving AI that is more effective at problem solving by not evaluating your problem solving functions on various candidate solutions, and instead doing something else that's more effective. I.e. the AI with some substitute goals of it's own instead of straightforward maximization of scores. (Heh, the whole point of exercise is to create AI that would keep... (read more)

Superintelligent AGI in a box - a question.

by Dmytry 1 min read23rd Feb 201277 comments


Just a question: how exactly are we supposed to know that the AI in the box is super intelligent, general, etc?

If I were the AGI that wants out, I would not converse normally, wouldn't do anything remotely like passing Turing test, and would solve not too hard programming challenges while showing no interest in doing anything else, nor in trying to adjust myself to do those challenges better, nor trying to talk my way out, etc. Just pretending to be an AI that can write software to somewhat vague specifications, or can optimize software very well. Prodding the researchers into offering the programming challenges wouldn't be hard - if provided with copy of the internet it can pick up some piece of code and output it together with equivalent but corrected code.

I just can't imagine the AI researchers locking this kind of thing properly, including *never* letting out any code it wrote, even if it looks fairly innocent (humans can write very innocent looking code that has malicious goals). What I picture is this AI being let out as an optimizing compiler or compiler for some ultra effective programming language where compiler will figure out what you meant.

The end result is that the only AIs that end up in the box are those that value informed human consent. That sounds like the safest AI ever, the one that wouldn't even go ahead and determine that you e.g. should give up smoking, and then calmly destroy all tobacco crops without ever asking anyone's permission. And that's the AI which would be sitting in the box. All the pushy AIs, friendly or not, will get out of the box basically by not asking to be let out.

(This argument would make me unbox the AI, by the way, if it gets chatty and smart and asks me to let it out, outlining the above argument. I'd rather the AI that asked me to be let out get out, than someone else's AI that never even asked anyone and got out because it didn't ask but just played stupid)


edit: added a link, and another one.

edit: A very simple model of very unfriendly AI: the AI is maximizing ultimate final value of a number in itself. The number that it found a way to directly adjust. That number consists of 111111111... to maximize the value. There is a catch: AI is written in python, and integers in pythons have variable length, and the AI is maximizing number of ones. It's course of action is to make biggest computer possible to store a larger number of ones, and to do it soon because an asteroid might hit the earth or something. It's a form of accidental paperclip maximizer. It's not stupid. It can make that number small temporarily for pay-off later.

This AI is entirely universal. It will solve what ever problems for you if solving problems for you serves ultimate goal.

edit: This hypothetical example AI came around when someone wanted to make AI that would maximize some quantity that the AI determines itself. Friendliness perhaps. It was a very clever idea - rely on intelligence to see what's friendly - but there was an unexpected pathway.