I think you're underestimating how carefully Eliezer and other SingInst folk have considered these ideas, especially in the wake of the Roko drama. Remember the main concept even showed up on SL4 years ago, which is actually how I learned of it. (That is, considered the ideas themselves, not the social strategies resulting—I'll note that the Catholics, who have the cultural wisdom, don't seem to have suppressed the knowledge of demons and ostracized people who demonized them, even if they went so far as to kill people who tried to commune with them. That s... (read more)

Some theories:

a) You've figured out a way to summon demons and want to destroy your own credibility so that people don't flow the train of thought in your old posts and figure it out also. If so all I can say is that security by obscurity generally doesn't work.

b) You're getting possessed by demons and what to destroy your credibility to minimize the damage possessed!Will can do.

This post is for sacrificing my credibility!

by Will_Newsome 1 min read2nd Jun 2012347 comments


Thank you for your cooperation and understanding. Don't worry, there won't be future posts like this, so you don't have to delete my LessWrong account, and anyway I could make another, and another.

But since you've dared to read this far:

Credibility. Should you maximize it, or minimize it? Have I made an error?


Don't be shallow, don't just consider the obvious points. Consider that I've thought about this for many, many hours, and that you don't have any privileged information. Whence our disagreement, if one exists?