Not that I should ignore the part about not being nearly careful enough in your eyes, of course

You could actually take that as a third validation. After all I am declaring that you are successfully achieving what you set out to achieve as an instrumental goal - portray a lack of credibility. It would be totally implausible for me to maintain (or for you to cause me to maintain) a significantly lowered estimation of your credibility while simultaneously believing that you excelled in the 'careful thinking' department as well as the previously mentioned categories.

I disagree entirely, and think there is some sort of "lets pretend we are talking about what we say we are talking about" bias at work here.

Will SAYS he is talking about reducing his credibility. He then does not use a host of tools which would do that very effectively ( I think there are many choices, but making errors of fact and logic would be a good start). Speaking cryptically is NOT a very good way to reduce your credibility, except possibly among some subset of people.

What Will is more successfully doing is 1) intriguing a subset of ... (read more)

-4Will_Newsome8yYeah, but come on, losing credibility in the eyes of the masses is like the easiest thing in the world. Find a taboo, then break it. Losing credibility in the eyes of the wise, though, is impossible. Some people will know I'm a good rationalist no matter how many shenanigans I pull—I'd have to start breaking laws or something to make them think I'd finally gone full schizo. I guess I could just claim to be God, but it's so hard not to be meta, the relevant people would see through my act quickly. The only choice is to avoid them, and move into the forest for good.

This post is for sacrificing my credibility!

by Will_Newsome 1 min read2nd Jun 2012347 comments


Thank you for your cooperation and understanding. Don't worry, there won't be future posts like this, so you don't have to delete my LessWrong account, and anyway I could make another, and another.

But since you've dared to read this far:

Credibility. Should you maximize it, or minimize it? Have I made an error?


Don't be shallow, don't just consider the obvious points. Consider that I've thought about this for many, many hours, and that you don't have any privileged information. Whence our disagreement, if one exists?