But if it comes down to Us or Them, I'm with Them. You have been warned.

That's from the document where Yudkowsky described his "transfer of allegence".

What puzzles me is how the outfit gets any support. I mean, they are a secretive, closed-source machine intelligence outfit who makes no secret of their plan to take over the world. To me, that is like writing BAD GUY in big, black letters on your forehead.

The "He-he - let's construct machine intelligence in our basement" is like something out of Tin-Tin.

Maybe the way to understand the phenomenon is as a personality cult.


WTF? It says right at the top of the page:

(In April 2001, Eliezer said that these comments no longer describe his opinions, found at "Friendly AI".)

5nhamann9yWhat. That quote seems to be directly at odds with the entire idea of "Friendly AI". And of course it is, as a later version of Eliezer refuted it: I'm also not sure it makes sense to call SIAI a "closed-source" machine intelligence outfit, given that I'm pretty sure there's no code yet.
0AlphaOmega9yThat's how it strikes me also. To me Yudkowsky has most of the traits of a megalomaniacal supervillain, but I don't hold that against him. I will give LessWrong this much credit: they still allow me to post here, unlike Anissimov who simply banned me outright from his blog.

What bothers you about Less Wrong?

by Will_Newsome 1 min read19th May 2011162 comments


Or, what do you want to see more or less of from Less Wrong?

I'm thinking about community norms, content and topics discussed, karma voting patterns, et cetera. There are already posts and comment sections filled with long lists of proposed technical software changes/additions, let's not make this post another one. 

My impression is that people sometimes make discussion posts about things that bother them, and sometimes a bunch of people will agree and sometimes a bunch of people will disagree, but most people don't care that much (or they have a life or something) and thus don't want to dedicate a post just to complaining. This post is meant to make it socially and cognitively easy to offer critique.

I humbly request that you list downsides of existing policies even when you think the upsides outweigh them, for all the obvious reasons. I also humbly request that you list a critique/gripe even if you don't want to bother explaining why you have that critique/gripe, and even in cases where you think your gripe is, ahem, "irrational". In general, I think it'd be really cool if we erred on the side of listing things which might be problems even if there's no obvious solution or no real cause for complaint except for personal distaste for the color green (for example).

I arrogantly request that we try to avoid impulsive downvoting and non-niceness for the duration of this post (and others like it). If someone wants to complain that Less Wrong is a little cultish without explaining why then downvoting them to oblivion, while admittedly kind of funny, is probably a bad idea. :)