That reading seems far-fetched.

Let's go over the conversation....

Part I: Lucius accosts Harry and speaks to him as if he were Voldemort. Harry pretends to be Voldemort (without meaning to). Lucius maintains his calm.

Part II: Harry goes "you think I could benefit from doing Draco harm. But it is irrelevant, Lucius. He is my friend, and I do not betray my friends." Lucius goes 'what the fucking FUCK?'

Part III: Longbottom arrives, Lucius asks Harry to send her away, Harry spouts the "my age" comment, and Lucius goes, "I do feel the fool now. This whole time you were just pretending to have no idea what we were talking about."

Judging by part 3, Lucius wasn't fooled by Harry's act in part 1, but kept playing along just to make sure. Harry says enough incriminating stuff in part 1, but that doesn't convince Lucius... Clearly, he realises that that's what anyone trying to gain information would say. Since he's convinced in part 3, though, he must have had a relatively low prior on anyone except Voldemort saying what Harry did... But why? Why? What's so special about that one off-hand comment?

<retracted, see Locke's reply> Then again, if he wasn't convinced in part 1... Why was he shocked in part 2? I can imagine him being shocked at Voldemort saying something like that, but why would he be shocked at Harry Potter saying it?

.... Something's not right about this whole thing.

If he was indeed a 2nd-level player, he would have pretended to be shocked as a part of his 0th-level act. Then he somehow comes to the conclusion that Harry is 3rd-level.

Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 9

by Oscar_Cunningham 1 min read9th Sep 2011725 comments


(The HPMOR discussion thread after this one is here.)

The previous thread is over the 500-comment threshold, so let's start a new Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread.  This is the place to discuss Eliezer Yudkowsky's Harry Potter fanfic and anything related to it. The latest chapter as of 09/09/2011 is Ch. 77.

The first 5 discussion threads are on the main page under the harry_potter tag.  Threads 6 and on (including this one) are in the discussion section using its separate tag system.  Also: one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.  The author page is the central location for information about updates and links to HPMOR-related goodies, and AdeleneDawner has kept an archive of Author's Notes.

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