J.K. Rowling is releasing some character bios on Pottermore, and showing a flagrant disregard for MoR!canon. In particular, McGonagall's father was a Muggle Presbyterian minister. Even though, in MoR:

Minerva stared at Severus, feeling sick to her stomach. She had studied Muggle religion - it was the most common reason for needing to Memory-Charm the parents of Muggleborns - and she knew enough to understand what Severus had just said.

Furthermore, per the bio McGonagall was ten years old and still living in the Muggle world when atomic bombs were dropped, so she'd probably know about nuclear war.

Obviously this sort of collision is inevitable, and since it's a full-blown AU there's no obligation to fix it. In this case, though, it might be possible to enhance the text with some minor retcons. In chapter 61, maybe when Severus mentions prayer, Minerva remembers her childhood and thinks "they had offered prayers, every dinner and every Sunday at church, for the brave soldiers at the front. It had seemed impossible to her, at that age, for any remotely humanlike being to even consider not answering them."

Then later in the same chapter, when Dumbledore alludes to nukes:

"What?" said Minerva. She had heard of guns, of course, but they weren't that dangerous to an experienced witch -

Maybe then Minerva thinks back, and remembers that nobody would explain to her exactly why Japan surrendered, as though what had happened was something even more terrible than a war...

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Word of God is not canon, and indeed is often trumped by fanon.

0Anubhav8yIf it ain't broke, don't fix it.
19ArisKatsaris9yI think Eliezer shouldn't fuss too much making the MoR! universe consistent with any new information, especially not chapters already posted. Too much cost in time, too little benefit. And a half-blood McGonnagal would need be drastically rewritten, it's not just those few passages, it's her entire attitude towards the Muggle world.

Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 9

by Oscar_Cunningham 1 min read9th Sep 2011725 comments


(The HPMOR discussion thread after this one is here.)

The previous thread is over the 500-comment threshold, so let's start a new Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread.  This is the place to discuss Eliezer Yudkowsky's Harry Potter fanfic and anything related to it. The latest chapter as of 09/09/2011 is Ch. 77.

The first 5 discussion threads are on the main page under the harry_potter tag.  Threads 6 and on (including this one) are in the discussion section using its separate tag system.  Also: one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.  The fanfiction.net author page is the central location for information about updates and links to HPMOR-related goodies, and AdeleneDawner has kept an archive of Author's Notes.

As a reminder, it's often useful to start your comment by indicating which chapter you are commenting on.

Spoiler Warning:  this thread is full of spoilers.  With few exceptions, spoilers for MOR and canon are fair game to post, without warning or rot13.  More specifically:

You do not need to rot13 anything about HP:MoR or the original Harry Potter series unless you are posting insider information from Eliezer Yudkowsky which is not supposed to be publicly available (which includes public statements by Eliezer that have been retracted).

If there is evidence for X in MOR and/or canon then it's fine to post about X without rot13, even if you also have heard privately from Eliezer that X is true. But you should not post that "Eliezer said X is true" unless you use rot13.