I think that "spending most of your youth mostly among people who have IQ 50 points less than you" is a very specific problem. Which happens to some high-IQ people. And doesn't happen to the some others.

my point is that IQ is a strong factor that will be able to overcome some (but not all) environmental barriers.

Humans are social species. We learn the culture. High IQ is not magic. People learn a lot by copying people around them. You cannot effectively learn dealing with everyday problems by e.g. reading a book about Feynman.

People "unlike you" are the majority of the society

Doesn't make the task of learning to interact with them easier. The usual scenario for average people is: 1. learn to interact with your parents; 2. learn to interact with your peers; 3. learn to interact with weird people. Skipping the step 2 makes the step 3 harder, because we cannot use the natural "what would I do in their situation" heuristic.

I am assuming lack of other problems like autism.

I assume it is two situations causing the same problem for two different reasons. Simply said, you can have problem understanding other people either because your detection mechanism is broken, or because they think and behave differently from how you would think and behave in the same situation.

Of course, for some people it can be both.

The social games should have been easier because you're smarter than people around you.

As long as you don't desire to do things or discuss topics that are beyond their reach. Like, never.

And again, the skills of social games with non-smart people are what you need.

Need for what? Winning a pissing contest? Or feeling like a member of the tribe?

People who are highly successful are often abnormally smart

As if I ever denied that. I am talking about "P(successful | smart)", you reply with "P(smart | successful)".

You have two children with IQ 150. One goes to a special boarding school for kids with the same IQ of 150. The other one goes to a normal school with the normal kids of normal (100) IQ. After they both get out of school, which one will be better positioned to deal with real life and real society?

Many people in "real life and real society" actually live in a bubble. When you e.g. study computer science, and then work as a programmer, you are usually not surrounded by people with IQ 100 most of the day. People even often choose their life partners with similar IQ. For some reasons this is considered natural for adults, but a horrible heresy when talking about children.

Assuming they both get into the same university, etc., I would bet on the child from the boarding school. But of course other factors can change that; for example if the child from the boarding school chooses a university where the average IQ is 100, and also loses all contacts with their former classmates, that can have a bad impact.

You cannot effectively learn dealing with everyday problems by e.g. reading a book about Feynman.

"Smart" and "nerd" are different things, overlapping but not the same. Note that it's not smart to try to deal with everyday problems by reading books about Feynman.

Doesn't make the task of learning to interact with them easier.

Sure, but you're stuck with them anyway. It's not like you have an option to move to some version of Galt's Gulch where only the IQ elite are admitted.

Need for what?

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