Improving the LessWrong Wiki

  • "New Wiki Page" in the dropdown menu under "New Shortform"
  • Every wiki has karma, to signal what people think of it
  • Docs-like comments on wikis
    • It would make it much cleaner to write things I intend to work on in future.
    • The tech exists
  • Double bracket search and tagging
    • When you use [[, it opens up a search window to all Lesswrong pages. You type in what you want to reference. If there isn't one. it creates it eg [[Solipsism]]
  • Disputed changes sit beside text, like comments
  • A process for requesting a number -> getting an accurate forecast
    • There is a description in the text
    • A user flags it for quantification
    • Other users collaboratively write a forecasting question
    • Users give estimates, weighted by LW karma score (I hate this but it would be better than nothing, hard to abuse etc)
    • Ideally, eventually this gets replaced by a manifold market or similar
  • Toggle open close sections
  • Gwern-style floating windows which appear when you hover over text in Lesswrong
  • Embeddable manifold markets
  • Embeddable squiggle estimation
  • Taking variables from manifold markets and squiggle and displaying them within the text
  • "New Wiki Page" in the dropdown menu under "New Shortform"
  • Docs-like comments on wikis
    • It would make it much cleaner to write things I intend to work on in future.
    • The tech exists
  • Double bracket search and tagging
    • When you use [[, it opens up a search window to all Lesswrong pages. You type in what you want to reference. If there isn't one. it creates it eg [[Solipsism]]
  • Disputed changes sit beside text, like comments
  • A process for requesting a number -> getting an accurate forecast
    • There is a description in the text
    • A user flags it for quantification
    • Other users collaboratively write a forecasting question
    • Users give estimates, weighted by LW karma score (I hate this but it would be better than nothing, hard to abuse etc)
    • Ideally, eventually this gets replaced by a manifold market or similar
  • Toggle open close sections
  • Gwern-style floating windows which appear when you hover over text in Lesswrong
  • Embeddable manifold markets
  • Embeddable squiggle estimation
  • Taking variables from manifold markets and squiggle and displaying them within the text

Note by Nathan Young:

  • CommentsDocs-like comments on wikis
    • The current tech exists and itIt would make it much cleaner to write things I intend to work on in future.
    • Comments are hidden unless you click show. You can toggle them to be permanently shownThe tech exists
  • Double bracket search and tagging
    • When you use [[, it opens up a search window to all Lesswrong tags.pages. You type in what you want to reference. If there isn't one. it creates it eg [[Solipsism]]
  • Disputed changes sit beside text, like comments
  • A process for requesting a number -> getting an accurate forecast
    • There is a description in the text
    • A user flags it for quantification
    • Other users collaboratively write a forecasting question
    • Users give estimates, weighted by LW karma score (I hate this but it would be better than nothing, hard to abuse etc)
    • Ideally, eventually this gets replaced by a manifold market or similar
  • Toggle hide/unhideopen close sections
  • Gwern-style floating windows which appear when you hover over text in Lesswrong
  • Embeddable manifold markets
  • Embeddable squiggle estimation
  • Taking variables from manifold markets and squiggle and displaying them within the text

oh this is great, agreed on all points. (but what if they just embed logseq)

I generally disagree with the idea that fancy widgets and more processes are the main thing keeping the LW wiki from being good. I think the main problem is that not a lot of people are currently contributing to it. 

The things that discourage me from contributing more look like:

-There are a lot of pages. If there are 700 bad pages and I write one really good page, there are still 699 bad pages.

-I don't have a good sense of which pages are most important. If I put a bunch of effort into a particular page, is that one that people are going to care about?

-I don't get much feedback about whether anyone saw the page after I edited it - karma for edits basically just comes from the tag dashboard and the frontpage activity feed.

So the improvements I would look for would be like:

-Expose view counts for wiki pages somewhere.

-Some sort of bat-signal on the tag dashboard for if a page is getting a lot of views but still has a bunch of TODO flags set.

-Big high-quality wiki page rewrites get promoted to frontpage or something.

-Someone of authority actually goes through and sets the "High Priority" flag on, say, 20 pages that they know are important and neglected.

-Some sort of event or bounty to drive more participation.

  • Comments on wikis
    • The current tech exists and it would make it much cleaner to write things I intend to work on in future.
    • Comments are hidden unless you click show. You can toggle them to be permanently shown
  • Double bracket search and tagging 
    • When you use [[, it opens up a search window to all Lesswrong tags. You type in what you want to reference. If there isn't one. it creates it eg  [[[[Solipsism]]
  • Disputed changes sit beside text, like comments
  • A process for requesting a number -> getting an accurate forecast
    • There is a description in the text
    • A user flags it for quantification
    • Other users collaboratively write a forecasting question
    • Users give estimates, weighted by LW karma score (I hate this but it would be better than nothing, hard to abuse etc)
    • Ideally, eventually this gets replaced by a manifold market or similar
  • Toggle hide/unhide sections
  • Gwern-style floating windows which appear when you hover over text in Lesswrong
  • Embeddable manifold markets
  • Embeddable squiggle estimation
  • Taking variables from manifold markets and squiggle and displaying them within the text

Nathan, I assume this is posted also on the EA Forum?

1Nathan Young2mo
No, they don't let me post to their wiki like this and I haven't had enough success to publicise it yet.
  • This is a deliberate bastardisation and subversion of how the wiki is used
  • In order that people don't think I'm a defector, I'm making clear what I'm doing as I'm doing it. Tell me what you think
  • Anyone should still edit this document as if it were theirs
  • The wiki would be better if it had a range of features I discuss below
  • If you disagree, edit it! Sometimes edit wars are good

Wiki features and how valuable they would be

  • Comments on wikis
    • The current tech exists and it would make it much cleaner to write things I intend to work on in future.
    • Comments are hidden unless you click show. You can toggle them to be permanently shown
  • Double bracket search and tagging 
    • When you use [[, it opens up a search window to all Lesswrong tags. You type in what you want to reference. If there isn't one. it creates it eg  [[Solipsism]]
  • Disputed changes sit beside text, like comments
  • A process for requesting a number -> getting an accurate forecast
    • There is a description in the text
    • A user flags it for quantification
    • Other users collaboratively write a forecasting question
    • Users give estimates, weighted by LW karma score (I hate this but it would be better than nothing, hard to abuse etc)
    • Ideally, eventually this gets replaced by a manifold market or similar
  • Toggle hide/unhide sections
  • Gwern-style floating windows which appear when you hover over text in Lesswrong
  • Embeddable manifold markets
  • Embeddable squiggle estimation
  • Taking variables from manifold markets and squiggle and displaying them within the text

Some pages I have edited to be the style of what I think should be all pages

Created by Nathan Young at 4mo