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Someone wrote a comment on the school format they endorsed on ShtetlOptimized:

https://scottaaronson.blog/?p=6146#comment-1919410

 

If you have time how do you feel about the proposal. It seems like it engages with problems with the Prussian inspired education system used in America by collecting the effective parts of charters, and un/home schooling, although it opposes charters but allows for un/home school to exist.

1iceplant2y
I grew up in California, and many of my friends chose to go to community college part-time instead of high school, and basically got this "modular" design the commenter discusses for later education. I think it worked really well for them. When I was 13 I really wanted an academically "normal" environment, probably irrationally so, maybe a little rebelliously so, which is why I didn't choose to do this. I think expanding California's already very high caliber and affordable community college network to provide a more independent alternative to high school could be a great option for a lot of kids. I have trouble fully understanding how this proposal would be implemented for earlier grades, though it sounds nice. I think decoupling the necessary from the enrichment in school would help a lot. I went to a large urban public high school, and remember seeing a lot of kids who were legally forced to learn a ton of math that had nothing to do with their very real material struggles that could optimistically take a decade to materialize into a tangible career from a teacher who also didn't care about math. I can't help but think these students would have been better served by dropping out of high school, doing a 3 month dev bootcamp, then applying to software engineering jobs, and potentially reentering the school systems once they had more stability in their lives. 

https://mobile.twitter.com/necromanzee/status/1472702108931694599

There are other examples but this was a pretty prominent reply. Plus many tweets don't give their opinion directly on the question as this one does.

2jefftk2y
The tweet you are linking seems to be pointing out that deflating by wages and deflating by prices are different things, but I don't see it giving an opinion? Perhaps this is me not really understanding Twitter?

A lot of it might be hedonic treadmill stuff but some of it is basically a complexity tax. And of course some people look at relative poverty to some degree.

Basically the average person has access to cheaper and safer, if not always healthier, food than a Dickens character could ever dream, even cheap apartments are superior in almost all ways.

But the requirements to function effectively in modern society are quite a pain complexity wise. You probably need at least a cheap cell phone, you probably need to own or have access to a computer with capabilities ... (read more)

2jefftk2y
I think it's pretty unlikely that this is what the person who started all of this off was getting at? They shared an update saying it was just sloppy research: https://mobile.twitter.com/drchristhompson/status/1472039474901049346 And I haven't seen anyone sharing it adding commentary along these lines.

I don't think you are correct. Just using raw absolute poverty isn't a measure that a supporter of government social investment and economic equality would accept.

When you say "what we care about" the we might work in the context of libertarians/classical liberals who may or may not read Lesswrong . com but that we wouldn't include the original tweeter or the people amplifying the tweet.

2jefftk2y
Why don't you think "what can you buy with your wages" is what the original poster and re-sharers were thinking about? Alternatively, what sort of metric do you think they would have preferred?

A much shorter less weird version of Metamorphises of the Prime Intellect. Any reflections on the similarity?

3Tomás B.2y
Nothing conscious, but I have read Metamorphises of the Prime Intellect.