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I'm considering taking anti-androgens, but I'm not sure what effect this would have on lifespan.

Would anti-androgen use have similar effects on lifespan as castration? I know both anti-androgens and castration cause decreased testosterone production, but I know almost nothing about this sort of thing, so I don't know if this is relevant.

Anti-androgens are much easier to attain than castration. According to this, "WPATH Standards of Care no longer encourage therapy as a requirement to access hormones".

Also, according to the article I linked, "... (read more)

I don't think LW is a good place to get medical advice.

Digital immortality seems much cheaper than cryonics and of similar effectiveness. Why isn't it more popular?

It has less chances of success as there is several non solved theoretical problems of personal identity. Also there is no much public leaders approving it. Yudkowsky was against. In my plan is just plan C - if antiaging and cryonics fail.

I question whether future society would be willing to bring someone back to life even if it was clear that the person wanted to be brought back and there was sufficient information stored to allow it to happen.

There might not be a moral reason to bring someone back to life, because if future agents value content agents, they presumably would be able to create far more content agents far more easily by engineering agents from scratch for maximum contentment with minimum resource use.

There might not be an economic reason to bring someone back to life, becaus... (read more)

You suggested reading Longecity. However, it seems that most articles on Longecity are only relevant to whoever posted it, for example by asking about what to do in a very specific situation, or aren't relevant at all to increasing the chance of becoming immortal. Knowing this, how do you recommend reading Longecity, if at all?

Hi! I have been reading it for years to find useful leads and also used search if I have any specific topic. The posts there are not equal, some has many links on scientific articles, like Lostfalco posts, some just personal experiences.

Okay, when you would like me to help, email me at

If a version is written in English, I'll probably be willing to review and proofread it. I'm a decent writer in English, and I know a fairly large amount about immortality. I wrote Immortality: A Practical Guide using a different Less Wrong account, in case you're interested.

Hi It may take a couple of years to finish it and translation may need substantial adaptation. that is partically because I am working now on a series of article on global risks prevention. But some chapters and parts of it may be translated earlier. And I would appreciate you help. If you have facebook account, you may found me there as Alexey Turchin. I am now working on a chapter "AI in life extension", which is hot topic, and may be translated soon. Proofreading is always helpful as I am not native English speaker. I may ask you for help in it.

Thanks for the response. Do you know if the book will be made available in English, and if so, approximately when?

Hi! The book is in draft version and in Russian, but some of its ideas are presented in my roadmaps about immortality which are in fact chapters from the book. The text of the book if here: The links on the other roadmaps are here:

In case you didn't know, storing writing as images like it is in your mind map is bad for accessibility. Those who aren't visual, for example search engine indexing bots and blind humans, have difficulty reading such writing.

0turchin7y The pdf is here. But I will upload it in google docs also which hopely will improve searchability.
I am storing it as a pdf, which is linked on the top of the post, and added image screen shot just to show what is it, but I know that there is a problem how to present large plots in a post if the original is pdf.

Thanks for the post. The bottom of the mind map references the book Immortality by Alexey Turchin, but an Internet search failed to reveal any links to or discussing it. Do you know where it can be found?

The poster is the person who wrote the book.

I have been looking for articles discussing to what extent terminal values change. This question is important, as changing terminal values are generally very harmful to their accomplishment, as explained here for AI under "Basic AI drives".

This article says that some values change. This paper suggests that there are core values that are unlikely to change. However, neither of these articles say whether the values they examined are terminal values, and I'm not knowledgeable enough about psychology to determine if they are.

Any relevant thoughts or ... (read more)

I have been considering the potential for demographic changes due to mind uploading to be even more extreme than you might initially think. This may be caused by people who are both willing to create massive numbers of copies of themselves and who are better suited for an economic niche than anyone else is for that niche, or at least anyone else willing to make very large numbers of copies of themselves. In such a situation, it would be more profitable for a firm to hire such a person than it would be for them to hire others, which may result it that niche... (read more)

Well, there already exists a version of this -- a few orders of magnitude slower -- where some groups of people decide to reproduce faster than other groups. In real life the limiting factor is often that human children require resources, so too much reproduction may actually harm them by not leaving enough resources per child, so they are later unable to compete with those who received more resources. Another limiting factor is war, often over the resources. And yet another approach is to just let it happen and hope the problem will somehow solve itself, which actually sometimes happens (for example as groups of people get richer, they start valuing comfortable life more, which gets in the way of maximizing the number of their children). Also, sometimes the group actually wins, and then in the future its various subgroups have to compete against each other. Also, there is the fact of human sexual reproduction, which means that the winning group does not have to exterminate the losing groups; it can also assimilate them. Here is probably the greatest difference compared with the Em scenario, which is like a return to asexual reproduction.
Robin Hanson's "The Age of Em" is a book about this sort of thing.