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Yep, I agree that there's a significant chance/risk that alternative AI approaches that aren't as safe as LMAs are developed, and are more effective than LMAs when run in a standalone manner. I think that SCAs can still be useful in those scenarios though, definitely from a safety perspective, and less clear from a performance perspective.

For example, those models could still do itemized, sandboxed, and heavily reviewed bits of cognition inside an architecture, even though that's not necessary for them to achieve what the architecture working towards. Also... (read more)

I implied the whole spectrum of "LLM alignment", which I think is better to count as a single "avenue of research" because critiques and feedback in "LMA production time" could as well be applied during pre-training and fine-tuning phases of training (constitutional AI style).

If I'm understanding correctly, is your point here that you view LLM alignment and LMA alignment as the same? If so, this might be a matter of semantics, but I disagree; I feel like the distinction is similar to ensuring that the people that comprise the government is good (the LLMs i... (read more)

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I have no intention to argue this point to death. After all, it's better to do "too much" LMA alignment research than "too little". But I would definitely suggest reaching to AGI labs' safety teams, maybe privately, and at least trying to find out where they are than just to assume that they don't do LMA alignment. Connor Leahy proposed banning LLM-based agent's here: In the context of this proposal (which I agree with), a potentially high-leverage thing to work on now is a detection algorithm for LLM API usage patterns that indicate agent-like usage. Though, this may be difficult, if the users interleave calling OpenAI API with Anthropic API with local usage of LLaMA 2 in their LMA. However, if Meta, Eleuther AI, Stability, etc. won't stop developing more and more powerful "open" LLMs, agents are inevitable, anyway.

Do you have a source for "Large labs (OpenAI and Anthropic, at least) are pouring at least tens of millions of dollars into this avenue of research?" I think a lot of the current work pertains to LMA alignment, like RLHF, but isn't LMA alignment per say (I'd make a distinction between aligning the black box models that compose the LMA versus the LMA itself).

1Roman Leventov2mo
I implied the whole spectrum of "LLM alignment", which I think is better to count as a single "avenue of research" because critiques and feedback in "LMA production time" could as well be applied during pre-training and fine-tuning phases of training (constitutional AI style). It's only reasonable for large AGI labs to ban LMAs completely on top of their APIs (as Connor Leahy suggests), or research their safety themselves (as they already started to do, to a degree, with ARC's evals of GPT-4, for instance).

Have you seen Seth Herd's work and the work it references (particularly natural language alignment)? Drexler also has an updated proposal called Open Agencies, which seems to be an updated version of his original CAIS research. It seems like Davidad is working on a complex implementation of open agencies. I will likely work on a significantly simpler implementation. I don't think any of these designs explicitly propose capping LLMs though, given that they're non-agentic, transient, etc. by design and thus seem far less risky than agentic models. The propos... (read more)

Have you read Eric Drexler's work on open agencies and applying open agencies to present-day LLMs? Open agencies seem like progress towards a safer design for current and future cognitive architectures. Drexler's design touches on some of the aspects you mention in the post, like:

The system can be coded to both check itself against its goals, and invite human inspection if it judges that it is considering plans or actions that may either violate its ethical goals, change its goals, or remove it from human control.

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I had read the first but hadn't seen the second. I just read it. It's well written and highly relevant, and I'll be citing it in my future work. Thanks much for the reference!

My experience on Upwork is actually the same as yours! In our tests of the platform, it appears to be very difficult to find jobs due to the intense competition. I was unpleasantly surprised at first when I saw how difficult it was to earn money on Upwork as a new user. However, that was the whole point of the initial tests we did, so we expanded and have still been expanding the program to encompass other forms of virtual work that pay reliably and still have room to grow. Upwork will be a minor or non-existent part of our program.

If my program was just on Upwork, then I would be inclined to side with your analysis. Thankfully, it's not.

I think I understand the point: hypothetically, this program would take work away from people more in need, possibly even making the world worse off because of that. But if I magically made half of the virtual workforce disappear, then the half of the people that were removed would be really poor and the other half would be twice as rich. But is that creating more good? No, because the richer half would not need the money as much as the poorer half. If I added more people who were earning less money before being added then I am creating a net good, and tha... (read more)

You're assuming that there's more supply right now than there is demand. That's possible, but unlikely given that I usually get 8+ highly qualified applicants for every remote work job I post (and a bunch more unqualified). If that was the case, adding more people would get more people out of poverty. However, in this case, where the supply of workers outstrips the demand, adding more workers will just be shifting who gets any particular job - poverty stricken person A, that you're not working with - or poverty stricken person B, that you are working with. Edit: I feel like i'm being super critical of a highschool student taking action - not something I want to discouraging, especially online where the subcommunication just isn't there. I applaud you taking action and Ill be interested to see what you create - I think I've said my reservations and hopefully you can address them.

Well the total pool of work available for everyone is imperceptibly decreased in the short run, not aversely affecting anyone to any significant degree, while giving more of the poor who really need the money work opportunities... Is employing several dozen more people a small net good? I guess it's a matter of opinion.

We are continuing our search for similar projects, thank you for your suggestion. I hope that we have not missed any pitfalls, but like Strangeattractor wrote, we are indeed doing tests of the concept in various stages of development, and this project is kind of a pilot in and of itself, so hopefully we can catch anything we might have missed.

'In a charitable way" meaning good for the people. Just because there are for-profit companies out there doing this doesn't mean they are doing what is best for the people, they are distributing wealth, but also keeping a lot of it for themselves. A charitable venture would give most of the profits to the people involved, and this project also involves providing many things to people like internet and computer access, training, opportunities, something a lot of freelancers have to acquire for themselves in developing countries. It is very difficult fo... (read more)

Thank you, that is one of the markets we are looking to branch out to.

I did not throw every detail into the video and fundraiser/my post in LessWrong, that is correct... I do think I described the jist of it. I explicitly stated that funds will go towards providing computer and internet access, training given by staff, and opportunities that staff have to find. As implied, expenses will go towards computer acquisition, internet, and helping staff implement various facets of the project. I could have explained each and every detail, but it would be too long for the target audience to read. The campaign is not noticeably more ... (read more)

How much money to you think you are going to pay per computer? How many people do you think you will get working with the money that you raise?

MTurk employs a lot of people in developed countries. I have read they are starting to reject Indian based workers because of poor work quality. I can find employment for people who can provide a similarly high standard of work relative to workers in more developed countries, but who need the income more. Member participants would otherwise have had difficulties joining, say, MTurk because of a lack of computers, internet access, proper guidance, training... I don't think there are any companies helping freelancers find work because it's not very profitable, and yet there is a great need to reach people who are not working to their potential.

I'm having trouble seeing how a for-profit corporation would create more good and be a more effective structure in this case. A non-profit organization can operate without income tax and attract donations which can be tax-deductible to donors. A for-profit organization could get investment capital, but I think it's highly unlikely I would be able to find any interested investors, and it otherwise performs worse compared to a non-profit with the same business model.

You are likely underrating the difficulty of raising charitable funds. If the business model doesn't work for a for-profit it's unlikely from an outside view to think that you create much value in a nonprofit structure.

The way I see it, making the project a nonprofit allows it to better compete with for-profit companies because of tax-advantages. It can also get donations. A for-profit corporation has the advantage of attracting investments from people hoping to make a profit, but I am quite sure that I would not be able to attract large sums of investment capital. That pretty much gives starting this program as a nonprofit the only logical choice.

Regarding your point about re-compensation, I don't think I cannot extract the value, it will just be difficult to pay myself... (read more)


Belizeans would probably be competing with wealthier people for work because their high level of English mastery allows them to compete for more advanced positions. The websites I mentioned have many workers from more developed countries. For example, half of MTurk's users are from the United States.

I'll say that this hasn't been my experience using these sites... I usually get several high-rated applicant's from poorer countries.

Many people in developing countries do not have access to the technology needed to participate in virtual employment, so we will provide computer and internet access. We will be doing marketing in a way, yes, although it is guidance and training as well. In the future, we will move on from guiding people through using third party systems to directly selling virtual employment services, which should be much more profitable.

Thank you for your suggestions. I have in fact surveyed people and organizations in Belize. The general consensus is that there are a lot of people who are unemployed or working for very low wages, and getting higher paying employment would improve their standard of living. You mentioned a small scale pilot, we have actually run many such pilots, which is how we found that it would be possible to help people earn around $3 USD an hour. We are currently working on remote testing of our program before actually sending staff to Belize.

There is definitely no prominent implementation of this concept and its related variations. Many nonprofits offer job training and give people computer and internet access, but starting what is essentially a virtual employment company to help people is not something I have heard about before, hence this program. It is possible that this idea was not implemented before in a charitable way because people start virtual employment companies for for-profit purposes, and those companies are very successful. As to the idea of connecting the impoverished with virtual employment services, it is possible many people are not aware of virtual employment services and thus have not implemented the idea.

Could you define "in a charitable way?" It seems like most of the for-profit companies in this space are doing what you want, by distributing wealth from people to whom it has lower marginal value, to people for whom it has higher marginal value. You seem to think that something being "for-profit" or "non-profit" makes a difference in terms of the good they do... but in this case, when you're simply trying to create an efficient market, they end up trying to do the exact same thing.
One important question is whether there used to be implementations of this concept, but for some reason they failed to gain traction. In the world where there is some unexpected pitfall to this plan, you would expect not to see any prominent implementations, but you might be able to find out what the pitfall is if you dig enough, and hopefully circumvent it. Intuitively I would be quite surprised if no one has tried anything along these lines before, so understanding previous attempts and how they relate to yours seems like it would be quite valuable.

The venture could be profitable, yes. Would it generate massive amounts of income? That is also possible. I did not consider a for-profit version of the idea because the project itself was supposed to be charitable in nature. I am considering starting a for-profit branch of this idea, and would be open to hearing other people's ideas and motivations. Is your motivation and other's in getting involved in a for-profit implementation of this idea to earn money?

To elaborate more on profits, the initial implementation of this idea might not be incredibly profit... (read more)

Charitability and profitability are not opposites. Perhaps you interpret for-profit as "grab as much as you can" but it does not necessarily have to be so. You can keep 51% ownership to yourself and take 0 pay as a compensation for your work and reinvest all the profits into the organization, making it effectively non-profit, while the 49% shareholders will make their gains through share prices going up if the organization is expanding based on the hope that at some future day you will pay them dividends.
That's a mistake. On of the core ideas of effective altruism is to focus on effective structures instead of focusing on signaling that one is charitable.

To frame it from the "capitalist virtues" perspective...

If you squint a bit, your version sounds a lot like "we're going to create a lot of value for a lot of people, in a way that is neatly measured in dollars, and therefore we can't possibly make a for-profit company." That is... really weird, from where I sit.

Alternate perspective: if you're creating a lot of value for a lot of people, but you can't extract any of it to compensate yourself for the infrastructure you build and the risks you take building it, are you actually really sure you're creating as much value as you thought you were?

Thanks for your question! This particular project is charitable in nature and would probably require funding to get off the ground and expand more rapidly. Since it is not expected to attract for-profit support, especially because it would probably not be a particularly profitable venture, most funding would probably come from people/organizations with non-profit motives. People/organizations with non-profit motives generally only donate to nonprofits, which have a better public image and are more trusted to pursue altruistic goals like donors expect. We c... (read more)

I agree with ChristianKl. you said: why won't it be profitable? Can't you make it profitable? There is a market failure connecting people in places where minimum wage is too high to employ locals with employees willing to work for less. (in that its not easy to hire an international team) I would be interested in getting involved in a for-profit version of this idea. (and was taking small steps towards researching similar ideas)

Thank you for your help! I have edited my post with additional information. My audience is a general youth audience, think of promoting content to an entire high school, with "average teenagers" and people that might be more interested in content. Of course, some people will be more interested than others, so a wide variety of recommendations for different interest groups is better. I'm primarily looking for books that promote ethical/altruistic behavior, I'm not sure if any of your beforementioned recommendations do so.

Thanks for your recommendations! I've edited my post to make it more specific, I am looking for content that promotes altruistic behavior, either fiction or nonfiction.

Answered all questions, I hope I helped!

I'm very curious to see how the monetary reward works out.

Thank you very much. How sure are you that top colleges will trash unschooling applications?

I'm not sure, I just think that it's overall quite likely. Admissions is probabilistic, in that you never know who you're admitting given so little information, so you just want to admit those applicants who seem most likely to be successful students. It's understood that not everyone who lacks a high school diploma with a bunch of A's on it is going to be unsuccessful, nor is everyone with such credentials going to do well. But suppose you were getting many more applications than you had time to read thoroughly, and further that reading and evaluating applications is a utterly miserable task. You'd probably come up with a way to weed out all those applications that are very unlikely to be worthwhile without really reading them. If you had to come up with a criteria for weeding people out, given high school GPAs, SAT scores, essays, cover letters, etc. what would you do? Well, you can't quickly process essays or letters. What you can do is put all the GPA scores and all the SAT scores on a spreadsheet, weight them however you like, and slash however many off the bottom so that you end up with a manageable number of applications and then read those. Most people with a just a GED or a bad GPA or a low SAT score are going to end up by the wayside. It's a stupid, prejudicial way to handle any one application, but it makes sense as a way to deal with thousands. This isn't how everyone does it. But this is how a lot of places do it. And the more applications a school gets, the more likely it'll employ such a method. And good schools get a lot of applications.

Since you asked me about the most effective technique I've used since this point, I started using the pomodoro technique with Beeminder. I have experienced a very dramatic increase in productivity. Thank you very much!

Wow, great to hear!

I don't think I've accomplished enough at this point in my life to go to college immediately.

If I unschooled, I would be engaged in many other activities with social support like internships, classes, and possibly even school extracurricular activities.

Historically, I have had no problem getting things done with no social support.

Don't underrate the effects of having a fixed structure that comes from the outside.

It's true, my parents kind of forced me into it...

You are right, I should try to free up more time while taking the conventional and safer route.

My problem is that the akrasia seems to be partially caused by staying in a highly structured environment. I don't have much trouble doing things I believe are beneficial towards my goals.

I currently believe if I pursued option 2 I could get into a top college just like I would have done if I stayed in high school but more useful things would get done.

If this belief is false, then my akrasia would be slightly reduced.

Yes, but with all those activities I listed above I have minimal free time during the school year. I do have much more time during the summer though.

I believe the pomodoro technique had me accomplishing many tasks for one day, then it failed. It failed because I failed to start using the pomodoro method itself, I just procrastinated on starting it. I also got distracted while working. I either stopped working and never got on track again, or I forgot about the rules about distraction (record it, apply the 3 steps) and wasted a lot of time. Over time I just forgot about it. Thanks for reminding me, I'll give it another go because it was so close to working and I can try different motivational techniques... (read more)

Idea for pomodoro technique: try making a 30 minute audio clip that consists of 25 minutes of "pomodoro timer noise" (some noise you condition yourself to concentrate on, e.g. find some waterfall clip or something), then 5 minutes of silence. Then play it on loop. Makes it easier to not get distracted when the timer is running and also ensures that the timer is always restarted. Make rules related to when you can turn off the looping, e.g. if you're done with your homework for the day, or you spend at least 30 seconds writing down reasons to keep it on and decide that you should still turn it off even given those because you're too tired to work effectively or whatever (see also). Maybe also make it give you a warning 30-60 seconds before your 5-minute break is going to end. Given that you've failed at this so many times before, I'd recommend being extremely strict with yourself this time... really figure out in advance what the rules you'll follow will be, brainstorm cases where you'd want to break them, and either add exceptions and decide to continue following them for every case that you brainstorm, and then be extremely anal about following the rules once you start actually using them. Additionally, probably make the rules pretty reasonable and easy to follow to increase your success odds even more (but still be an extreme stickler about following the rules you do set out; err on the side of following them too well). Also, if you've been failing at doing your homework a lot recently, I'd say give up on trying to do it ahead of time and just deliberately do it at the last minute for a few weeks, so you stop practicing the action of attempting to improve your study habits and failing (it sounds like you've practiced this a lot, and you don't want to just keep practicing it. It's not "practice makes perfect", it's "practice makes permanent".) Have a day planned in advance when you will switch to the new pomodoro productivity scheme you've been working on... Septe

Unfortunately, Akrasia still strikes in the morning and I don't always have the motivation or energy to finish everything. But that's only with minimal sleep due to procrastination the night before.

I have to see if I can get my parents to agree...

So I leave high school... and then what comes next on the path to world optimization? :)

Huh. Ask Eliezer about that :)

I think that's the best guaranteed way to improve the world. There is almost no uncertainty. But I'd rather not subject myself to decades of monotonous work, especially since there are so many other organizations and individuals who could create an impact thousands or even millions of times more than mine.

I was thinking more along the lines of actually working at a nonprofit, starting businesses to raise money, something at least a little higher impact then earn several hundred thousand and donate it.

With those updated plans, which of my three options (or neither of them) are the best?

Eliezer is a profoundly unusual person who has had vastly more success than most people with his level of education. many people are able to find interesting high paying jobs in the for-profit sector. This is also an argument for taking the donating money path to helping. Remember, money is a unit of caring. It depends on your skill set, but I would guess (1) in part because of what your parents think. If you are a computer programming genius (i.e. someone is currently willing to pay you >$100/hour) then perhaps 3. Having akrasia problems is an argument for staying in a highly structured environment.

Thanks for your helpful replies!

I've actially spend years trying to fix this problem, with little success. I've tried multiple books, read about every productivity system ever invented, tried thousands of articles over hundreds of websites... No luck.

Recently, I've been looking into Akrasia on Less Wrong because I thought the suggestions might finally have an impact. I memorized The Motivation Hacker (along with all the techniques shared in the Procrastination Equation). I've also tried PJ Eby's materials. I found that unfortunately it had no impact on my... (read more)

"Ye have read, ye have heard, ye have thought," he said, "and the tale is yet to run: By the worth of the body that once ye had, give answer - what ha' ye done?" Perhaps you just phrased yourself poorly, but the form of your answer does not suggest to me that you have, you know, actually made an effort, extraordinary or otherwise.
What's the technique that came closest to succeeding and how specifically did it fail?

Heh. I wake up at 7:00 AM, attend a full 7 periods with all the Advanced Standing classes I can, and leave at 3:15 PM. From there, I go to cross country, taking my time until 6:00 PM at the earliest. Then I eat dinner, shower... Then it's 8:00 PM already and all my homework is there waiting. Then there are family activities, chores, distractions, and other projects I need to do thrown in. Did I mention I have a serious akrasia problem? Then I sleep at like 12:00 AM... Not that much time if you ask me.

Why? That seems to be time that you could use otherwise. I would also add that "cross country" doesn't seem to be a term with a fixed meaning and I can find many things under that label via google.
I would look at these two things before considering dropping high school entirely. If you don't intend on cross country having a positive effect on your college admissions, then you can exercise in a much more time efficient manner than 12.5hr/week long distance running. Your akrasia problem is not likely to disappear with increased free time and decreased structure.

So that suggests a middle ground between your current level of engagement and dropping out entirely. If there are things you think would be more valuable* than one of those activities, and you think you have the mechanisms to motivate yourself to do them, do so.

"Unschooling" won't help with the lack of available time or motivation. It's the wrong granularity to make your decisions on - think about how you spend individual hours of time, not how you identify your current lifestyle.

Which of those things (directed studying, sports participatio... (read more)

But don't you attend school only around 180 days/year (if in the U.S.)?

College does sounds pretty useful, so I guess the question is whether I should leave high school, unschool for 3 years, then reapply to college. If that does not significantly reduce my college admissions potential it would seem like it is the most strategic thing to do.

Why not apply to college right away? Not seeing the need for the 3-year waiting period. You won't have formal qualifications anyway, so either you can convince them you know your stuff, or not.

Carefully putting off assignments sounds like a potential solution, but usually assignments are assigned one day and due the very next. I have around 4 hours to get an average of 2 hours of homework done on school nights. But I fail to shift into homework mode which caused me to write this article at 10:00 PM last night, get 5 hours of sleep, then wake up early to finish studying because it seems easier in the morning.

If you work better in the mornings, is it possible to arrange things so you get to sleep and wake up a little earlier? Not ridiculously so, but if moving work time from night to morning lets you use it more efficiently... (I did exactly this entirely by accident. The trouble was the part where it made it easier for me to forget assignments that needed doing, so while I got things done with less mental strain and without so much time wasted internally, there were more assignments that just got missed. A simple written agenda would probably avert this risk.)
It seems like you'd do well to at least spend some time brainstorming and experimenting with solutions to this problem (ex: do your homework in a different part of the house, or at least take a short walk to get in to "homework mode", smoke electronic cigarrettes or spray your face with water to stimulate yourself, set up website blockers to block your distracting websites past a certain time) before ditching school... it's an option that's always there. Or just do your homework in the mornings, if that's what works for you.

Thanks for the clarification.

I'll focus on resources rather than topics, and collect crowd opinion on resources.

I'd call it success. Really, I am more afraid of the opposite situation: too few people caring enough to comment; because then I wouldn't know what to do. If there are too many comments, you could for example collect the resources and make a poll. Or just start another discussion a month later, where the first comment would contain the poll about the resources recommended in the previous discussion. Or anything else. The big problem is IMHO if

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Obviously you put more thoughts to it than I did. Yes, self-help can be a very wide category, a superset of all learning. I was thinking about something more narrow, like changing one's habits or developing social skills. So... uhm, I don't know. Probably would try to split it to some categories, one per article, and put some time (a few days?) between them, if one category is enough to make a big discussion. Also, giving the specific category may help people remember some material that wouldn't come to mind when thinking about "self-help" in general. I'd say try the first topic, and you'll see how it goes. Good luck!

Thanks for suggesting concrete actions, I'll go ahead and post it ASAP.

Questions before I start (thanks in advance)!

  1. What's better, recommending a resource to improve something or recommending a specific topic to improve with resource suggestions as reply's? Ex. Watch The Blueprint Decoded to learn PUA vs improve PUA and add resources as replies.

  2. What do you mean by collecting data? Do you mean collecting the self-improvement resource suggestions themselves, or opinions/ratings/votes on the suggestions?

  3. What if there are too many comments on the disc

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Not really sure here, but I would probably focus on resources. At least they are more obviously structured (this is one resource, this is another resource) than topics (is this topic a part of that topic? are these two topics related?). Also easier to vote on -- there can be two books on topic, one good and one bad. Voting on topics wouldn't make sense; different people in different situations want to improve on different things. Even the resource-topic relationship is not clear; some resources say: "doing this improves your life in many aspects". Collecting the resources which get positive votes. Maximizing the number of resources would be a lost purpose. We can't read them all; the time is precious. We should only read the best ones (and the community vote is a heuristic to find them). But because different people want different things, it would be nice to have a little for everyone. I'd call it success. Really, I am more afraid of the opposite situation: too few people caring enough to comment; because then I wouldn't know what to do. If there are too many comments, you could for example collect the resources and make a poll. Or just start another discussion a month later, where the first comment would contain the poll about the resources recommended in the previous discussion. Or anything else. The big problem is IMHO if people generally endorse the idea, but the discussion is followed by... silence. Yeah. I am not sure about the options in the poll; perhaps: "put them in LW wiki", "put them in LW article", "create a new wiki" and "other (explain in a comment)"?

It seems like people find discussions more rewarding than posting to a wiki. There could be weekly discussions on the many aspects of self improvement, and then those ideas could be posted on a wiki for organization and further updates.

Do you think using a separate wiki is a good idea? It seems like the LW wiki is not being used for collecting self-improvement articles, and a new wiki with a separate purpose, community, and article format might be better. After all, the current wiki is organized only for rationality articles, and changing the layout and article format might cause some conflict and confusion.

What do you think about a wiki dedicated to self-improvement? That would be a better way to organize the knowledge than 500 comments.

Basically (I think) it's the same idea - use forum for discussion, wikify the results. The domain is not the same though (only somewhat overlapping)

Should I have titled the post Instrumental Rationality Wiki that also has a Page on Rationality? Perhaps the name "Effective Rationality Training Online" does not lead people to think about self-improvement, just making good decisions type rationality.

The problem with CFAR is that there is just so much knowledge out there it cannot be shared in several days. It's an excellent starting point, but there is just so much more material out there and so many individual circumstances that it would be impossible to provide consistent high impact knowled... (read more)

I get the impression that non-workshop methods of education, including online classes, are under development, but I don't have a good sense of what they've done already / want to do. One example that I just thought of, which you may be interested in but not have seen yet, is the (not very accurately named) skill of the week posts. No. You personally should make a page about self-improvement articles, and add links to it. In general, and on the internet in particular, implementations are far more valuable than ideas.

Thanks for your feedback, leaving the wiki open seems like the best choice.

It's true, people do arrive at past posts, but if I wanted to find really high impact knowledge for improving myself shared on Less Wrong I could not do it. I don't know what I would find before I arrived there.

I think the most difficult part is sorting and collecting the texts. Even if you choose a wrong software - if you make a good choice of the material, you can switch to another software later.

Generally, I would recommend using MediaWiki, the software used by Wikipedia. You don't get other software tested by so many users. I have repeated experience with people suggesting using other kinds of wiki, because they have this or that additional feature, only to find out that the main feature - editing pages - is full of bugs. I prefer if the software does one th

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To me it seems that Viliam_Bur is saying roughly the same thing in both examples. You try to do something that's very hard. In the first case he gave suggestions about how to go about doing it. In the second case he proposed that you do something more simple instead. The thing is that you are a newcomer on LessWrong and don't have much cloud in this community to get people to follow you to another website. Given the way you write about the problem you also seem to be naive and don't really know what you are doing. I wrote the above before going through your posts and finding out that you are 15. Having ambitions at the age of 15 is good. For the time being I think you will probably have more success by doing something within LessWrong than by starting your own instrumental rationality website outside of LessWrong. I would also suggest to build relationships and do personal development projects together with other people. If you have build those relationships it will be easier to say to people that you know: "Hey, please write an article on X".

Thank you, I meant the process for acquiring skills. Post edited.

Thanks, meaning to improve the world is closer to what I meant to say.

I will be soon, sorry for the delay in reply

Edit: Discussion here

Hehe, "the mechanism" was referring to the entire procrastination process, not one specific theory or cause. Could my communication be improved somehow, or is some confusion somewhat unavoidable?

The definition of procrastination in psychology is, "procrastination refers to the act of replacing more urgent actions with tasks less urgent, or doing something from which one derives enjoyment, and thus putting off impending tasks to a later time." It appears like procrastination is motivated by bad feelings about urgent tasks or good feeling... (read more)

I don't know. Just retread your posts a couple minutes later maybe? I just feels frustrating to make sense of them sometimes. So maybe with some time to forget what you meant, you'll be able to read your post like somebody else, and feel the frustration they feel, and remedy it? I'm sorry if nobody else has trouble with your posts and it's just that I have some sort of problem understanding you. Anyway... It sounds like you distinguish between two different reasons people start later than optimal: 1. Bad planning that causes us to intend to start later than optimal 2. Emotional factors that cause us to start later than intended I agree that reason 2 is more properly called procrastination than reason 1, and that anchoring-induced delays, if they exist at all, would be part of reason 1. So, yeah, if anything, anchoring on a deadline causes irrational delay, not really procrastination.
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