Artyom, that is a predictable non-response. Why it is about science that grants it a monopoly on systematic honesty? Why is systematic honesty the relevant procedural virtue with regard to this question? Why do you seem so sure that only science is capable of producing worthy answers to such questions?
This blog is the most cringe-inducing example of Plato's Cave I have seen in a long, long time.
This comment is going on a decade old, and if you still access this account, I
would be curious about your stance on your above statements now.
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Nobody here (but you) has claimed that science had a monopoly on systematic
honesty.
Systematic honesty is relevant to science for reasons that should be fairly
obvious. The point of science is that dishonesty can't be hidden for long.
Repeatability shows the way to the truth, and there's no hiding from it. The
benefit of systematic honesty is that we approach the truth iteratively.
You asked "of what use is science". Artyom seemed to be trying to point out that
science is of great use - if you are seeking the truth.
He then questioned the benefit of your "alternative approaches"... which you
never actually mentioned a) what they are or b) what use they are, by comparison
with the scientific method of seeking.
You seemed to imply that science was of no benefit to seeking meaning... but
gave no evidence of that fact, nor any benefits of you alternatives.
he probably isn't sure. Just as I am not... However, my own experience with
science.. and with many alternative methods gives me the background to state
that science, with its systematic honesty, tends toward better solutions than
any other method I've so far been able to find. Also that you can, in fact,
combine science with almost any other useful method.
Take (as a random example) "following your heart" as an "alternative method". It
is my experience that "following your heart" is generally undertaken as a random
decision-making procedure... but there is no reason why, at any one decision,
you can't write down what your heart predicts to be a good answer... then
checking if it worked out to be the best option when the dust settles... and
using that as input into your next decision.
Hey presto... science.
Hmm, ad hominem, and no evidence of any actual evidence of why even you consider
this blog to be related to Plato's cave... sadly, my heart tells me that you are
likely just a troll...
Artyom, that is a predictable non-response. Why it is about science that grants it a monopoly on systematic honesty? Why is systematic honesty the relevant procedural virtue with regard to this question? Why do you seem so sure that only science is capable of producing worthy answers to such questions?
This blog is the most cringe-inducing example of Plato's Cave I have seen in a long, long time.