To some degree, sure.
I have spent a lot of thought on this, and I am well aware of all the studies posted by Gwern over time that show the effect of parenting on cognitive ability, educational attainment, etc. to be small or zero. I buy that your influence on intelligence and character is neglible. Still, it wouldn't be adaptive for the child's brain to throw away useful knowledge (though it might question its valence). There are also a lot of things that can make the parent-child relationship easier. Scott Alexander wrote that there seem to be shared-environment effects influ... (read more)
Thank you for adding all these recommendations on breastfeeding. I can confirm that difficulties with breastfeeding cause royal pain. I don't see a way to pass on this knowledge via remote mentoring (plus, neither of us does breastfeeding). Maybe we should more clearly point out that this is a father's position, and of course, your mileage may vary.
Posts of his that made it into my Anki deck:
Hidden motives complicates incentive design. Instead of just trying to offer people more of what they want, we need to let them continue to let them pretend to want what they pretend, while actually offering them more of what they really want.-- https://twitter.com/robinhanson/status/1084903516857094149
Blame Holes like Plot Holes
on Signaling (again)
Interesting side point: 1/3 of movie budget goes to marketing because blockbusters are a coordination game.
Who Likes Simple Rules
Why do people dislike objective ... (read more)
Thank you for continuing to do the executing summary. I could skip most of the post because of it.
While skimming I noticed this:
There will be a point these mandates everyday actions
supposedlyfun and I arranged a mentoring and you can find a summary of our collaboration in this LW post.
This is a Google Doc that I created based on the child development planning of my ex-wife. It contains an estimation of the effort (hours spent) for the first 8 years.
And this Google Sheet contains activities and development program steps we developed. This contains what supposedlyfun called our Salami Tactics.
Both are incomplete and just what I included during the preparation of our calls. I intend to add to it later.
A, I missed a "t". "can" -> "cant". Sorry about that typo. I mostly agree with it being a matter of degree. But I want to respond to this part of your comment:
In principle, the agentic unity of the ego can be lost and instead scattered onto different agentic-type thought processes
I wouldn't say that this is what happens with Shoulder Advisors or with the no-self experience of meditation. There are many failure modes of the brain making sense of agency and identity. I think the default mode of society is to encourage and reinforce an interpretation... (read more)
I agree that a community can and should avoid certain topics. For example, the "politics is the mind-killer" no-politics rule. And this is probably true, independent of whether one understands why something is dangerous. But there are two aspects here: Understanding why something is dangerous and actually trying out the dangerous thing. Granted, one can easily lead to the other. There is also the other side of the coin: Understanding why something is healthy/beneficial. LW is also about that (see Lifestyle interventions to increase longevity). There is a l... (read more)
I think this quote is relevant though I can't exactly say how:
Technological change actually arrives in ways that leave human behavior minimally altered.The future always seems like something that is going to happen rather than something that is happening.Successful products are precisely those that do not attempt to move user experiences significantly, even if the underlying technology has shifted radically. In fact the whole point of user experience design is to manufacture the necessary normalcy for a product to succeed and get integrated -- Welcome
Technological change actually arrives in ways that leave human behavior minimally altered.
The future always seems like something that is going to happen rather than something that is happening.
Successful products are precisely those that do not attempt to move user experiences significantly, even if the underlying technology has shifted radically. In fact the whole point of user experience design is to manufacture the necessary normalcy for a product to succeed and get integrated
Sounds like a great product. You could offer this as a service for other forums, libraries etc. for profit.
Thank you for the clarification. I think it is valuable to include this context in your comment.
I will adjust my comment accordingly.
Related Tweet by Mason:
One of the weirdest ideas in Bay Area rationalist/adjacent circles is that you become someone like e.g. Elon Musk, hyper-productive and motivated, by introspecting a ton
Can somebody give me some hints according to which norms this could be downvoted?
Well, if that is true then that would be another avenue to research mental states. Something that is clearly needed.
But what I really wanted to say: You shouldn't do it if you can't formulate hypotheses and do experiments for it.
Well, I agree that the actual prevalence you have in mind would be roughly half of 38% i.e. ~20%. That is still much higher than the 12% you arrived at. And either value is so high that there is little surprise some severe episodes of some people happened in a 5-year frame.
I had a look at the situation in Germany and it doesn't look much better. 17% of students are diagnosed with at least one psychical disorder. This is based on the health records of all students insured by one of the largest public health insurers in Germany (about ten percent of the population):
UPDATE: I mostly retract this comment. It was clarified that the threat was made in a mostly public context which changes the frame for me significantly.
I think it is problematic to post a presumably very private communication (the threat) to such a broad audience. Even when it is correctly attributed it lacks all the context of the situation it was uttered in. It lacks any amends that way or may not have been made and exposes many people to the dynamics of the narrative resulting from the posting here. I'm not saying you shouldn't post it. I don't k... (read more)
I don't think the context in which I heard about this communication was very private. There was a period where Michael seemed to try to get people to attack GiveWell and Holden quite loudly, and the above was part of the things I heard from that time. The above did not to me strike me as a statement intended to be very private, and also my model of Michael has norms that encourage sharing this kind of thing, even if it happens in private communication.
Can you propose a norm that avoids the pitfalls?
I have pointed out the risks of meditation and meditation-like practices before. The last time was on the Shoulder Advisors which does seem to fall on the boundary. I have experience with meditation and have been to extended silent meditation retreats with only positive results. Nonetheless, bad trips are possible - esp. without a supportive teacher and/or community.
But I wouldn't make a norm against groups fostering meditation. Meditation depends on groups for support (though the same might be said about psychedelics). Meditation is also a known way... (read more)
If it works as a device to facilitate sub-conscious associations, then maybe an alternative should be designed that sheds the mystical baggage and comes with clear explanations of why and how it works.
See also studies about base-rate here: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/MnFqyPLqbiKL8nSR7/my-experience-at-and-around-miri-and-cfar-inspired-by-zoe?commentId=pHaq26ZrznpC7D5f4
Note that the pooled prevalence is 24% (CI 18-31). But it differs a lot across studies, symptoms, and location. In the individual studies, the range is really from zero to 50% (or rather to 38% if you exclude a study with only 6 participants). I think a suitable reference class would be the University of California which has 3,190 participants and a prevalence of 38%.
Just add the numbers so it's clear what belongs to what.
I think Yair Halberstadt is aware that it is not safe - but that doesn't seem to be his goal anyway. I like this too. I did something a bit like this a while ago in the LW wiki. Pages there aren't found via the author search either - but can be traced back by checking who edited the page.
The footnotes don't seem to work for me. Neither clicking on them nor the backlink.
: People in and adjacent to MIRI/CFAR manifest major mental health problems, significantly more often than the background rate.I think this is true
: People in and adjacent to MIRI/CFAR manifest major mental health problems, significantly more often than the background rate.
I think this is true
My main complaint about this and the Leverage post is the lack of base-rate data. How many people develop mental health problems in a) normal companies, b) startups, c) small non-profits, d) cults/sects? So far, all I have seen are two cases. And in the startups I have worked at, I would also have been able to find mental health cases that could be tied to the company narrative. Humans being human narratives get... (read more)
In particular, I want to remind people here that something like 30-40% of grad students at top universities have either clinically diagnosed depression or anxiety (link). I think given the kind of undirected, often low-paid, work that many have been doing for the last decade, I think that's the right reference class to draw from, and my current guess is we are roughly at that same level, or slightly below it (which is a crazy high number, and I think should give us a lot of pause).
Most of these bullet points seem to apply to some degree to every new and risky endeavor ever started. How risky things are is often unclear at the start. Such groups are build from committed people. Small groups develop their own dynamics. Fast growth leads to social growing pains. Lack of success leads to a lot of additional difficulties. Also: Evaporative cooling. And if (partial) success happens even more growth leads to needed management level etc etc. And later: Hindsight bias.
I read the summary on Wikipedia and couldn't figure out the specific alternatives either. But it is not needed. It is clear that the real options real people face are equally difficult.
Theoretical. We're one or more major technical insights.
I may agree with your conclusion that
For me, the more immediate difficulty seems to be how to act in the intermediate world where only a few understand this and could act accordingly but the majority doesn't.
I have tried to find and understand where any of these or any other prewritten works associated with LessWrong.com might have already addressed these questions.
The sequence on free will can be found under the tag Free Will. Posts building up to a solution step by step can be found under Free Will Solution.
I'm not super happy with how the dissolution is presented, but I would say all the relevant parts are there. For example, I would say your point
Therefore, a person who makes choice A had to make that choice, for to have made any other choice the per
The book is hard to get except maybe at the library. I had to pay >100€ for a used German translation. But there is this great online resource with complete content for easy lookup.
The official site of the book has summaries for the pattern here. But I like the complete content on this site much better: http://www.iwritewordsgood.com/apl/set.htm
Christopher Alexander invented the presentation in the book in the form of a Pattern Language (described in his book of the same name). Among other uses, it spurred the Design Pattern Language in software development (here is a link from the (now defunct) c2 Portland Pattern Repository (itself the first wiki)).
I agree that the book is opinionated and written in a very confident ton... (read more)
If you have an idea for the kind of writing we should incentivize with bounties, please comment below.
Summarizing research - either individual papers or work in a working group. Any fields could be interesting though you might want to incentivize certain fields. It could be done like The Best Textbooks on any Subject i.e. you have to compare it to two other papers on the subject though that would probably be very challenging. I am also thinking about somehow countering publication bias.While I'm at it: I miss the polling feature of the old LW. It was a qui... (read more)
You describe it as a matter of degree and I cant disagree with that.
I think the two big advantages of a retreat are
Both interrelate. But with your specific profile and experience level, I think it will be difficult to find a suitable retreat. It might work better to work closely with a meditation practitioner that you click with.
Thanks for sharing. I can relate even to the exceptions and resulting strategies.
That again sounds pretty close to how I would have described me earlier (and would mostly still describe). You didn't write about your emotional balance but if were is again like me it would involve few excited states and fewer conflicted or what's called negative states and emotions as e.g., anger. If so, that would confirm my assumption that getting to such a uniform and stable state requires a certain environment. An environment that has little need for the developing brain and mind to overfit. No forced adaptations to environmental risks like loss of caretakers or life. But also an environment rich in information and with exploring.
The inner monologue, as a tight coupling of auditory and linguistic processing, is rather helpful for performing some kinds of thought, for extending working memory
I still use internal monologue to trigger parts of my brain for things like planning
Or for recalling previous conversations or rehearsing speech (though that also falls under extended working memory).
This does have a side effect that I never really feel like part of most groups.
Same here. And that, together with what you wrote earlier ("I don't think I can model people"), leads to les... (read more)
I can relate very well to Flawed Spiral. Before I looked more into meditation and got a higher resolution awareness of inner processes, I could have written a description like him. For me, it was not so much "no unitary self" as rather a tiny self. I didn't have much of an inner monologue. And I could easily relate to Paul Graham's appeal to Keep Your Identity Small. A small self doesn't mean low complexity. For me, it was a high alignment of inner processes and values as well as a rich and updatable world model.
What additional machinery do you have in mind or what else makes you think that?
I know it's been a while...
If Lily (6y) comes to me and says "Anna (4y) pushed me,"
I'm curious how this has developed. With my boys, there were a lot of fights. The typical reaction is not to go away and complain but mostly to fight back. And that can mean bruises. And whatever rules we discussed and agreed on got tested to the limit. The only rule I have mostly been able to get buy-in for was: "The head is taboo." Explaining that being the only part that can't be repaired. However, even that got challenged with pillows and touching.
The kids will often ask
It's also possible to experience 'team flow,' such as when playing music together, competing in a sports team, or perhaps gaming. In such a state, we seem to have an intuitive understanding with others as we jointly complete the task at hand. An international team of neuroscientists now thinks they have uncovered the neural states unique to team flow, and it appears that these differ both from the flow states we experience as individuals, and from the
I would like to know what you think of this video on Youtube: Rules for Rulers
It seems to explain at least some of the dynamics though it doesn't use Selectorate Theory but more intuitive reasoning.
Maybe that is one way how entertainment manipulates public opinion: By creating memorable (=easily emulable) characters that become shoulder 'influencers' that promote the official narrative right in the heads of the populace.
You are both right.
I believe Duncan that he got incredible success rates on his courses. I believe him not because I have seen him do it - I haven't even watched any of the linked videos. I believe him because he believes it, because it fits with what I have read from him, and - crucially - because I have seen it quite often in many other domains e.g. with teachers or influencers (providing base rates for reference classes; it may also have helped to have had a thousand-year-old vampire father-in-law). But also because I recognize tha... (read more)
Skills of this kind that I have observed:
I have also observed the ones you pointe... (read more)
If I get you right with "Cup-Stacking" you mean a skill that
And you want to extend this from visually observable motor skills to "Reflexive Involuntary Mental Motions" like argument construction and social out-dancing (best word in place of 'manipulation' that I came up with the help of a shoulder advisor).
Is that roughly right?
My own contribution to this is two older links from LW that seem relevant: