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Have never used a blade. I have always had acne and other skin problems that would make it impractical, plus it was just what my parents introduced me to in adolescence. But definitely not wet.

I think that a conception of heroic morality (basically, whether or not to use TDT, or choosing between act and rule utilitarianism) may be at the heart of many of the choices to be cooperative/nice or not. Many people seem to assume that they should always play the hero, and those more virtuous ones who don't seem to think that you would never be able to play the hero.

As an example, consider assassinating Hitler. It's not clear how Hitler could reprise this -- he is already killing people who disagree with him, and he is a single tyrant while you are an invisible individual. This does not apply, however, if you are in equal factions, say Fascists and Communists.

In the case of the Singularity, I'd say that most people don't consider probability and very largepayoffs.

I think that the answer to this problem is that it will simply be neccesary for class oppression to be ended then.

-2Eugine_Nier10y
Could you taboo "oppression". SJ types (and Marxists in general) love throwing around that word, but I've never seen a coherent definition beyond connoting something they disapprove of.
3bramflakes10y
Apparently. http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.co.uk/2009/07/why-carlyle-matters.html

It's possible that we are forced to engage more with peopel we thhink are eivl.

0[anonymous]10y
To which I would note that slipping into mind-killed survivalist mode is going to be even less helpful in trying to fight a war against a UFAI that simply isn't impaired by evolutionarily-ingrained biases about free thought being a bad idea.

Already we have been able to keep culture and hope alive in the midst of near-genocidal wars. Excepting mistakes such as a UFAI taking seriously "survival at any cost", I think that the risk of survival's demands trashing human joy is greatly lowered since 1950 and is unlikely to return.

1[anonymous]10y
Meeehhhhh. Ok, I'm going to slightly dissent and note that we're on our way to creating a second rise of fascism at the moment in much of the Western world. That is, even though our economies and societies are easily capable of keeping everyone alive, on a collective level we're currently choosing to force large numbers of people into Survival Mode, which frankly is an even greater mindkiller than blue-green politics. Get large numbers of people into Survival Mode and they start making really stupid decisions, like marching down the streets of the capital yelling "Jews out!" and demanding a strengthening of the military... in an EU member-state with barely any Jews in it. Did I just refer to France or Greece? Both. On the other hand, I don't think population trends really allow for militarization and total war anymore, and the rise of Asia means that someone's around to smack Europe and America when they get too stupid. So we could be looking at some waves of terrorist violence if public policy remains terminally obstinate about forcing people into their brain's mind-killed survival mode no matter the material facts, but probably not another Great War.

THe simulations look like they might have been developed using the tech from Half-Life 2, but with terrible quality animations. If the simulations were highly immersive, I might freak out because zombies. They also look less realistic than sequences seen in a number of popular violent video games (some of which offer considerable applications to apply utilitarian or unutilitarian choices.

Telling people with no exp. on violent video games to play Mass Effect all the way through, and record all their choices, and hesitations might be interesting for the cost.

One thing worth noting is that these all describe cases where if the sides took things seriously, they would act much more harshly and heroically. For example, there are very few people using either coercion or effective-altruism-like schema to save animals (and those who do have major scope insensitivity, or pick sympathetic victims).

In HPMOR, it also penetrates at least some thickness of cover, according to Moody, who also suggests that it does need significant mana. (How much mana? I'm getting the impression that Stupify is acceptable for Auror-level combat despite being castable by top first-years.)

It also cannot be countered. We don't see much of countering in HPMOR, but we do see Susan try to counter an extremely powerful bully's spell in the SPHEW.

IDK. Moody suggests that the spell might already be mildly homing or at least very easy to target.

2Velorien10y
In canon at least, the protagonists do nothing but dodge Avada Kedavras in a number of confrontation scenes. It has to be that way, because no Death Eater would be stupid enough to use anything but Avada Kedavra on a target they weren't trying to take alive, and most characters had enough plot armour not to die in a random firefight.

Plus she still might carry secret ancient magic that could be taught to Harry or to someone else without Quirrel needing to.

And that could probably be done with appropriate False Memory Charm.

He's got to have a time turner.

Potentially, although it would presumably raise huge alarms and might be impossible to stealth with. Meanwhile, I imagine that the traps are not readily bypassable.

I see it that both proponents and opponents tend to interpret or use it to mean "seriously, definedly bad" rather than the implied usage of "indicative of a problem".

0buybuydandavis10y
"It is problematic." Usually, the only "it" in the conversation is the thing itself, not any additional fact about the thing, so that "It is problematic" under your second implied usage becomes "It is indicative of a problem about itself". That's the problem with the usage. It doesn't identify any actual issue, it just says "it has a problem". "Blah blah is problematic." How? Why? No indication.

Also, pseudoscientists very, very often seem to have either an agenda, or a desperate desire to escape epicureanism.

1hyporational10y
The problem with using agenda as a heuristic is that it could be claimed most scientists have one. Perhaps if you divided agenda into subcategories, some of those could be useful, like political or religious agenda.

I would reccomend segmenting it from LW a bit.

0Gunnar_Zarncke10y
With 'it' you mean the (grand) meetup(s). Or?

I have my doubts about this. You're optimizing for a very narrow gap between societies with insufficient revivification tech and societies that are either too post-scarcity or Singularified or have undergone enough cultural or political drift that the money is worthless. And both the slow and fast routes to revivification seem like they would involve a LOT of that.

I agree strongly with 1), with the addition that another one happened in the modern era when engineering prowess, military strength, and highly versatile, effectively truth-seeking science and philosophy finally coincided in Europe and Asia.

I suspect that if neither the singularity nor a disaster occurs, there is likely to be a different huge shift, probably focused around a resurgence in the power-and-control super-science that defined Victorian through Space Age technological advancement, or alternatively in some form of social sphere.

I'd also add that... (read more)

Doesn't the recursive fic Caelum Est Conterrens explore the horror aspects a bit more?

7Leonhart10y
Read them both, enjoyed them both, and didn't find either even slightly horrifying, although I think I understand why I am supposed to find them horrifying (Fun-theory-wise). I'm genuinely unsure if I should be trying to fix myself on this count. Those who have a) read them, b) been horrified by them (either for EY's reasons or different ones) and c) would be reading more pone fanfic anyway, I'd be very curious to know if the existence depicted in MLP Loops is more, less, or differently horrifying to you.

Yvain has a pretty good story on his blog, too.

Hearing about this makes me fear the unboxability of AI even more

Even more recently, I think it was that enlisted men hardly made any decisions at all. Isn't the modern idea of the moderately agenty enlisted man a result of post-WWI squad-based mobile combat?

Also, even without a draft the lower and upper hierarchy have different induction methods. Military academy for the upper hierarchy, etc.

I think proximity also matters. There are no modern romantic heroes, but there are modern heartthrobs with questionable gender politics.

Agreed. Plus the child themself will have a blessed life.

I don't see any answer to this other than "everybody should have kids at the replacement rate".

Plus the fact that even if it's unlikely to work, the expected value can be ridiculously high.

Seconding this. Will likely interest feminists.

Also, many nonrationalists have naive ideas about how being in a Romance means you automagically never have coordination problems.

I can't remember... I think TKAM?

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0Oscar_Cunningham10y
Which film was that?

Possible alternate version: An entire city given over to paperclip manufacturing.

Similar possibility: An observation/control room for a large factory/server farm/ whatever that is completely automated. The overseer is being replaced. This might do well with some visual reference to Valve's Portal.

0Sheaman377310y
http://hpmor.com/chapter/15

I don't think it would work all that well on the unfamiliar.

5JoshuaFox10y
Yes, for newcomers it would be unfamiliar. It's not so crass as to look like an attention-grabbing ploy --- just strange enough to pique curiosity.

Hmmm... Here are some that focus on AI risk...

How about some scientists looking at a monitor (which is turned away from the reader) with mixed expressions of wonder, shock, horror, and confusion. Possibly you could have one of the researchers desperately trying to smash the computer or turn it off, while another is desperately trying to hold him back. Sort of trying to capture the failure of a real-life AI boxing...

A little more dramatic: A group of police or soldiers who appear to be arresting a server farm. One of them can see a monitor and looks real... (read more)

I like the idea of suggesting the recursion of human intelligence to machine superintelligence.

How about a hunter-gatherer working on making a spear or other primitive weapon, or maybe fire, in the foreground, and an ambiguously human-robot-cyborg figure in the background with a machine gun / nuclear generator?

I... wasn't really clear. People will often decide that things are part of themself in response to threat, even if they were not particularly attached to them before.

I'd add that often people tend to valueify their attributes and then terminalize those values in response to threat, especially if they have been exposed to contemporary Western identity politics.

2DanielLC10y
In other words, make his pedophilia a terminal value? That's pretty much the same as terminally valuing himself and considering his pedophilia part of himself.

I would not consider it as one, but gradual and natural evolution (Cultural and tech evolution, not genetics and natural selection) might make it one in about a century , mostly through closer coordination and hiveminding.

I do think that many ideas about AI can generalize to groups of people though, such as friendliness.

Yeah, it's actually enough to make me wonder if just forcing information into the country would trigger a rebellion...

Failing to ask people to spend time with me or work on projects together even when that was probably expected of me and (not in hindsight, but at the time) probably had few to no possible negative consequences.

It's more a question of 'at least one person chose a non-optimal university to be together'.

There were methods available for me to learn them. All I had to do was just some freaking low-risk costless empirical tests to calibrate it. My parents were telling me to. Once I reached college I did the tests and now am reasonably social.

1Metus10y
Provide more concrete examples please.

In modern culture, you get a fair amount of weirdness allowed as long as you are capable of being normal when it counts and are not too self-indulgent with it...

World of squibs.

Seconded. Learning to cook at a minimal level long before going to university has been a great asset to me, and allowed me to learn to cook well very quickly.

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