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To me, the Oxford shooting is a cautionary tale of being too sensitive and getting in the habit of expecting everything to be a false alarm.

I have a hard time identifying which steps actually went wrong. Specifically, some of those red flags are only alarming in combination with others, but treating them like problems actually causes too many false alarms that the school has been implicitly trained to ignore. I'd include in this a teenager who is allowed to go shooting, talks about it, posts on social media about it. All of this is perfectly legal and not ... (read more)

No it isn’t. Quoting your own source “ Live vaccines contain a weakened or attenuated form of a virus or bacteria.”. That is not what is suggested here.

Intentional infection through controlled means with the contagious virus hasn’t been used since Smallpox (as opposed to pox parties). There is no accepted term. The meaning was immediately clear to me on first reading it. It appears to be a successful reintroduction if a word for an analogous purpose. It’s even unique enough to be googleable.

1leggi3y
A true "live vaccine" is different from "live-attenuated" vaccine. (you're right re the link, it doesn't make the differentiation clear and is poor referencing on my part.) Due to the increased risks of "live vaccines" (and the ability to attenuate the infective agent in the majority of cases) they are rare but they do exist and are the subject of research. For example: Used for military personnel: Adenovirus vaccine [https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/vis/vis-statements/adenovirus.html] contains live adenovirus adenovirus type 4 and type 7 vaccine, live [https://www.fda.gov/media/80211/download] and: A Study to Assess the Safety of Live Intranasal Sendai Virus Vaccine in Children and Toddlers [https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00186927] (for "croup" rather than disease caused by sendai virus) Using a live unattenuated dose of COVID to stimulate immunity would fall into the live vaccination category.

Words are used to convey meaning. No one who has read more than a sentence on this topic thinks that Robin and Zvi are proposing the use of dried scabs. Vaccination is a word in common use for all diseases despite originally referring specifically to inoculation by cowpox ('vacca' = 'cow'). And it has a highly relevant parallel twin that refers specifically to the inoculation by the live dangerous virus, variolation.

0leggi3y
I've edited the post you answered to include stuff I've posted in other comments. I totally agree. Which is why I've been pushing the point that the meaning of variolation is not what people here seem to accept it as. Indeed. And it's the word that should be used here. A starting point for increasing knowledge of the subject: live-vaccines [https://www.verywellhealth.com/live-vaccines-and-vaccine-shedding-2633700] (edit to add: not a good link for differentiating between true live and live attenuated/modified vaccines, my mistake.) NO. Using a live virus is a known as a "live virus vaccination". Can you find ANY evidence that variolation is an acceptable term for any disease other than smallpox?

I just registered to offer some perhaps not readily available information which may be relevant to your evaluation.

I heard Dave Grossman speak in person when I was in the Marines around 2005. I remember his emphasis on getting enough sleep, and less than 30 minutes at a stretch not being worthwhile, but I mostly remember my impression of a fanatic. By this I mean he did not come across as a rational person committed to introspection and careful evaluation of his own beliefs. The general opinion of a bunch of Marine combat veterans was that he was way too w... (read more)