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Yes, that's close to what I'm saying. When watching a movie, we have the ability to "almost-forget" the real world to become immersed in it. In red-pill world, you can do this but cranked up to 11, you literally forget everything so that it all feels way more exciting, whether good or bad. You retain all memories afterwards. And yes, outer-you already chose, but I consider inner-you to be a different person, so the question is still meaningful ... (read more)

I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say. Do you think Morpheus may be lying, and/or that this world is so bad that a boring one is better? In that case you're free to go see the real world, but you're free to come back to this world (or another simulated world that you like better) at any time. It's more exciting if you think that the blue/red pill decision is one-in-a-lifetime, but more realistically it'd be set up so that you can go in and out as you please (with the obvious caveats of "you don't remember the real world", like in dreams), wit... (read more)

I don't seem to quite understand what you're trying to say either. Are you suggesting that my ideas about my values are not correct, and in fact, in the outside world, what best satisfies the values of the outer me is immersion in the Earth with complete oblivion? If so, then it is not clear what the question of choosing between the red and blue pill is, because since I am here, I have already chosen the blue one. P.S. I have a feeling that you're assuming the same fallacy here as the theists (forgot the name) when you assume that our world is the maximum optimization for human values, which is the best we could have. Although it is not. And if it is optimized for the values of the people of the outside world, and not ours, then how can we draw conclusions with our values. (I'm not trying to use some kind of manipulative technique, I'm just expressing how I feel)

It's not even a pun, "rational numbers" are also called that because they can be written as ratios. A lot of people seem to be wanting to change the name, but I think that's a funny rationalist bias with the word. I work with maths quite a bit and I picked it up instantly. Then again, that could be a maths bias, but I think the average person has heard "rational numbers" more often than "Rationalism" (meaning LessWrong Rationalism). I think rational breaks is actually one of the best names you can give them, along with "fractional".

Okay, now I NEED to know about that universe which doesn't run on math.

Also, the premise for the LOTR one is awesome, did anyone ever expand on it?

In my opinion (if you really didn't understand), Yudkowsky wrote this in short story format because he does not consider the mathematical universe even impossible, but simply meaningless. That is, the only explanation is that the Dark Lords of the Matrix are blocking our brain from the ability to think non-mathematical. But this should also apply to our real world, and not just to the world of story.

It seems to me like you guys are equating "natural death is no longer a thing" with "death and suffering are also no longer a thing". People commit suicide every day, and they have suffered for mere years or decades. Imagine all the trauma and suffering you could accumulate in centuries. It only takes to make the decision once, and it is final. 

If someone is perfectly happy for 279 years and then they get a streak of bad luck for 2 years (say, a war), that may very well be too much suffering for their untrained mind, and they may want to just switch i... (read more)

For my part, I think Dumbledore could have made a more compelling argument. One can easily claim that one should fear death, and that in fact everyone alive already does, whatever their belief system says. But saying that is like saying one should wash one's hands before eating, until someone washes their hands until they bleed. Or that protecting people against harm is a good thing, until someone enslaves everyone against their will in order to better protect them... Dark wizards do not merely fear death, or simply desire immortality, like we all do. They are obsessed with it--consumed with it, to the point of a mental illness, such that they are willing to do any harm to anyone in order to avoid their own mortality. That was the element in Voldomort's psyche that Dumbledore couldn't understand.  I don't think Harry understands it either. 

Funny, the other day I was thinking of this, but from the other side: What if we've already taken the pill?

Imagine Morpheus comes to you and reveals that the world we live in is fake, and most of the new science is simulated to make it more fun. Real mechanics is just a polished version of Newton's (pretty much Lagrangian/Hamiltonian mechanics). There is no such thing as a speed limit in the universe. Instantaneous travel to every point of the universe is possible, and has already been done. No aliens either (not that it would be impossible, we just happen... (read more)

Red pill. When immersed in virtuality, I would not erase my memory of reality. Unless, of course, it is assumed that "we are from a true simple and boring universe" cannot play games either. Well, don't you think that there is too much suffering in the world? Although the very idea of a simpler universe is interesting.

Can I find the article somewhere else? Link is dead now

See Jach's reply.

It's been 13 years, what's the feedback?

Foolish mortal, the Quantitative Way is beyond your comprehension, and the beliefs you lightly name ‘certain’ are less assured than the least of our mighty hypotheses.

Have you considered selling merch? I'm infinitely certain I'd buy a T-shirt with that quote.