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How to incentivize LW wiki edits?

I think the rules surrounding the wiki pages should be made more clear and strict. I suggest we use the same rules as wikipedia but with some twists, the main difference being that posts on lesswrong itself count as valid links to reference/quote from in wiki articles. Also we might want to consider now allowing downvoted posts to be used.

Other than that we might want to use a queuing system where a page maintainer reviews changes made and gives karma for accepted changes. At some point you might also consider removing karma for bad changes.

This maintainer thing does not have to mean we don't instantly see the change. The review can be done after the fact or they can be queued and not be made visible until reviewed.

3[anonymous]9yI don't think this helps. The problem isn't that the wiki is clogged with low-quality content (unless you count spam), the problem is that content doesn't make its way to the wiki. Making it harder to add real content is a step in the wrong direction.
Train Philosophers with Pearl and Kahneman, not Plato and Kant

Would you consider turning this knowledge into an actual curriculum that includes practice problems and exams?

I'm thinking of something in the lines of MIT's free curriculum and Khan Academy's Math section. I have no problem with still linking to these text books as long as the freely available curriculum made by you or your team fills the gaps and there are plenty of ways to test understanding. I name khan's math section specifically because it uses that infinite practice problems and 10 in a row signals proficiency and has built in SRS.

Unlike khan however i would want to see mastery of whatever is the current status of the field instead of the low target of a certain school's exam requirements.

Train Philosophers with Pearl and Kahneman, not Plato and Kant

Great post.

I wonder is this study-list also good enough for applied psychology? I would like to learn Cognitive Behaviour Therapy and as you point out above most studies are flawed.

If this post post is not enough could you write another one answering my question?

2012 Less Wrong Census/Survey

How to read the autism score was explained on the test page itself.

quote: "Psychologist Simon Baron-Cohen and his colleagues at Cambridge's Autism Research Centre have created the Autism-Spectrum Quotient, or AQ, as a measure of the extent of autistic traits in adults. In the first major trial using the test, the average score in the control group was 16.4. Eighty percent of those diagnosed with autism or a related disorder scored 32 or higher. The test is not a means for making a diagnosis, however, and many who score above 32 and even meet the diagn... (read more)

2012 Less Wrong Census/Survey

I Took the survey and all the extra questions. I could not answer the USA centric school test results, we have a similar system in my country but they cannot be easily converted to eachother.

I'm glad to finally have a BigFive and IQ test that people somewhat agree on using.

2012 Less Wrong Census/Survey

i was unable to click or copy them

Decision theory and "winning"

possible typo: "But don't you wish you were like me, Rachel?"... Rachael can and should admit that she does wish she were more like Irene... "


0crazy889yThanks. Will fix.
Organic food, conventional food

I have done a lot of reading, testing and visiting of farms for my own small farm. The promises of safe, healthy food at higher yields than conventional conventional farming sounds great.

I have researched 4 types of farming

  1. Classic conventional
  2. Modern Conventional
  3. Organic
  4. Permaculture

Unfortunately i will not be able to provide links to scientific studies or books at this time.

The differences between these 4 types are basically:

  1. : high crop yield, moderate to heavy use of synthetic pesticides, low crop rotation, high quality crop
  2. : Extremely high crop y
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Meetup : Brussels meetup

In which language is the meeting going to be? Also how much would parking cost?

1Axel10yI called the museum and they said the parking in front of the museum is free, but not that big. There are two public parking places (here you DO have to pay) nearby: Jourdanplaats / Place Jourdan Parking Forte Dei Marmi, Avenue du Maelbeek, Etterbeek
1Utopiah10yLast time it was in English. For the parking I have no idea, calling the museum could help.
Empiricism in Gameplay

This post made me think about this video:

In the video the annoyed person who made it explains how games teach the game mechanics intuitively as opposed to not at all or through a spoken or text tutorial.

I think it would be good if you watched this video and applied the lessons it gives to the game as a whole.

0MixedNuts10yAlso have a manual or at least a step-by-step tutorial, though. Most people don't read the doc, but some of us can't do without it.
How I Ended Up Non-Ambitious

I get the feeling a large portion of this story can be classified as learned helplessness.

Several studies(google for cal newport) have shown that base talent has little effect on how good you can be at something, the real variable is deliberate practice, pushing the limits of what you can handle a tiny bit to slowly keep improving. ( obviously your swimming example does have harder limits imposed by the limits of your body, this does not seem to apply to fields outside of sports though and in sports like boxing there are different classes because of the di... (read more)

2Swimmer96310yThat doesn't necessarily make all body types equal, either. I recently started taekwondo, and based on what my instructors have said, I don't have a great body for that either. The weight class structure, and the fact that taller fighters have a major advantage because of leg reach, means that tall, thin girls have a big advance, and I'm neither–my natural body type tends towards chubby/muscular depending on how hard I exercise. Most competitive taekwondo fighters in my weight class would be significantly taller. (In terms of cardio, I'm in better shape than most people at my current level, because I do a lot of exercise outside of class, and I was already quite strong before I started...but I seem to be genetically set to have slow twitch muscles instead of fast twitch muscles, i.e. good endurance and comparatively little explosive power. And I have slow reaction times.) Then again, other weight-class sports, like boxing, might rely less on the leg length and more just on strength, fitness, and technique. In which case I might be better off.
Some potential dangers of rationality training

I think this is a discussion about what the best order is in which debiasing should occur.

Project management seems to be an implementation of debiasing strategies and they first teach you to make more accurate predictions and then later teach you how to prevent the sunk cost fallacy from not cancelling a failing project.

Because of this i think debiasing should occur in a kind of logical order, one that prevents someone from cancelling all projects due to a good grasp of sunk cost and a bad grasp of utility calculations.

The Singularity Institute's Arrogance Problem

Thanks that helped. Too bad the spellchecker missed it.

The Singularity Institute's Arrogance Problem

Thanks, google docs is not flagging any typos, could you point some out for me?

7arundelo10yApostrophes are not used to form plurals. (Some style guides give some exceptions [], but this is not one of them.) The plural of "typo" is "typos". "Typo's" is a word, but it's the possesive form of "typo" (so it's not the word you want here). (Ninja edit: better link.)
POSITION: Design and Write Rationality Curriculum

Defining key performance indicators for things like these is not very hard, neither is developing ways to measure the performance. Tweaking the accuracy and fixing the gamable parts once the basics are done is the harder part. Also these metrics should like any theory be in a continual beta state and get tweaked, just make clear that the trend compared to previous measurements is broken. I can spend a little time on irc teaching someone how to do this but my time is extremely limited right now so it will have to be a formalish appointment with an eager student.

POSITION: Design and Write Rationality Curriculum

I would like to have this as an interactive application. It's not always so easy to get into a teacher student situation.

There are applications out there for developing this curriculum in a better way than the regular approach. Like the app these guys are selling I use apps like this on a daily basis to create the training content at work.

I don't need a whole game or anything, something as simple as the math exercises on khan academy will do the trick. And i would prefer each skill told as separately and atomically as possible/logically.

The Singularity Institute's Arrogance Problem

People tell me SI is arrogant but I don't see it myself. When you tell someone something and open it up to falsification and criticism I no longer see it as arrogance ( but I am wrong there for some reason)

In any case, what annoys me about the claims made is that its mostly based on anecdotal evidence and very little has come from research. Also as a regular guy and not a scientist or engineer I've noticed a distinct lack of any discussion of SI's viewpoints in the news.

I don't see anyone actively trying to falsify any of the claims in the sequences for ex... (read more)

there are many typo's

Murphy's law: a sentence criticising typos will contain a typo itself.

Meta analysis of Writing Therapy

Due to a lack of focus I could not read the whole document, but it does look pretty good to my untrained eyes.

The moderating factors seem to be pretty important, I was unable to collect them all but they should sum up nicely to a how to do writing therapy guideline.

[LINK] Matrix-Style Learning

Note that the matrix-style learning aspect is only in the news bulletin, the actual study has no such information. In fact the skill they learned was not even useful.

But it is nice to see proof that subliminal messaging can work.

Why I write about the basics

I think it's a chicken and egg problem. What luke writes on that page really does work, the page suggests building a set of skills and behaviors. But how does one overcome the akrasia about actually doing what the page suggests? I don't think we have an answer for that.

How rationality can make your life more awesome

Thanks for that fix, i updated my post to correct that. I mean this fruit/spice specifically:

I assume I'm allergic to the capsaicin in it, as i can eat Bell peppers and without any effects.

How rationality can make your life more awesome

I agree completely on the additional wiki requirements.

There should be no difference account/Karma wise between posting on the main site or the wiki.

Several Topics that May or May Not deserve their own Post

In my limited experience with children i have found that children will only do this when they are being ignored. I have only experienced it once myself and you quickly see the child is teasing you by their eyes and uneasy movement. The benchmark I use is repeating the same question again at a later time, that means they either did not understand or are teasing.

How rationality can make your life more awesome

Did i understand correctly that you want us both to review your text and add specific examples that we can think of?
I will do both.

On the text:

I liked it very much, but I don't think the text works very well for people who do not see rationality as a virtue.
Some problems i see when i try to put on the glasses of my anti-rationality friends:

  • The use of many in-crowd words and assumed meanings: hypothesis, fallacy, cognitive (non-rationality fan people do not use these words in daily life); What could be done is provide links to your definition. I bel
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3NancyLebovitz10yIt's spelled "chili". I don't know whether it would be worth your while to find out what's in chili that upsets your gut-- there may be specific ingredients (beans? hot pepper?) you want to avoid in other dishes. Congratulations for getting that much good from thinking about what you're doing.
2[anonymous]10yI agree! And talking about the Wiki we really should find a way for contributors there to be rewarded with karma for their efforts. Also why in the world do we require separate registration for the Wiki and the main site?
Article idea: Good argumentation

Since i suck at arguing i would love to see more posts on this subject. I also agree with previous commenter's that a clear distinction needs to be made for things that are darksidey or purely meant for winning an argument no matter what.

there are times when winning the argument is better for your terminal values than always trying to convince the other party of truth.

Connecting Your Beliefs (a call for help)

This video tries to explain what i mean, i hope the inferential distance is not too far

0[anonymous]10yI have stumbled on links to his books and blogs, many on the IRC channel where rather sceptical of the usefulness of his advice. My own prior was rather low. Nevertheless I would very like LWers to share their impressions on this, since there is something there that looks almost like it could work.
Connecting Your Beliefs (a call for help)

I too am very good at guessing the teachers password in addition to really learning the textbook contents. I am talking specifically about those students that do not use guessing the teacher's password as a way to finish with honors. I always do the propagation during the learning itself and improve upon it after the fact (i'll suddenly realize that something is off or changed days later)

I said i had a hard time explaining it and your comment makes extra clear that i failed. I will use your feedback to improve the text i have in mind.

Metaethics: Where I'm Headed

I had this idea that these articles and sequences would help me at winning in life while simultaneously pave the way for a better world and friendly AI. Now seeing these short summaries i am no longer so sure they will help me win.

2atucker10yI think the Habits and Goals article is very likely to help you win.
8lukeprog10yNo, the metaethics sequence is for hacking away at the edges [] of the Friendly AI problem.
Connecting Your Beliefs (a call for help)

This post made me realize just how important it is to completely integrate the new things you learn.

I have been reading a lot of books and blogs on the subject of students that finish school with honors, but don't seem to work very hard while doing so. I also met one of those people in person (he finished an entire 4 year curriculum with honors in just 3 months and is now a professor of that content)

It all boils to the same thing: Whatever the textbook is trying to tell you, make sure you integrate that in your life. Only then will you see if you really un... (read more)

2Technoguyrob10yI am one such person. I finished college at the age of 16, and I knew I was merely very good at guessing the teacher's password. People's remarks about my intelligence were dismissed by me internally, because I was aware of my own ignorance. However, what you say can be difficult to apply in practice during a semester. I see formal education as a method for gathering data, which you can use for Bayesian propagation after the fact. This is why it can feel like you learn much more thinking between semesters, rather than during. Your notion of necessity of integration is uncorrelated to outlier students. Given an outlier student, I would be surprised if active integration of textbook data was lower than given a non-outlier student. In both cases this conditional probability is, sadly, very small.
1[anonymous]10yI would find such a post very useful.
Poll results: LW probably doesn't cause akrasia

Test result: I feel really happy and relieved, i finally belong in the group and people will stop nagging me about it, i can put it all behind me. I'm not a chump at all, in fact, i'm (finally) normal.

I do feel forced to finish school, just because everyone else has done so and I have to live up to the expectations of society. (I also live in a country where without a diploma they don't even invite you for an interview).

I have trouble letting go of stuff in general (i have OCD) so i might just read that book anyway.

I shouldn't have to finish school becaus... (read more)

Poll results: LW probably doesn't cause akrasia

Ok so i thought about it hard.

Here's what i think the problem is: I think people who finished school and have diploma's are chumps who fell for paper-to-prove skills game in a system that is easily gamable and as a result doesn't actually show anything about your skill.

I guess i've made it a point to prove that you don't need school to get shit done (i have the biggest house, earn the most, best car, etc.. of all my friends and family, it seems i DO care about showing off?)

What i've been stumped on for years though, is how to respect being a graduate.

3thomblake10yUpvoted for apparently taking more than 5 minutes.
7pjeby10yTest: imagine finishing school, and see if your spontaneous reaction is thinking you're a chump. If not, you're just speculating rather than actually observing your beliefs. Stop disapproving of graduates. I.e., refrain from withholding your approval of them. Imagine a person who's a graduate, notice your disapproval (really, the muscle tensions that go with it), and then physically begin releasing them. You may also wish to ask yourself if there is any benefit to you from continuing to disapprove, or whether anything bad will happen if you begin approving of them. If you have difficulty just letting go of it, I suggest this book [] , even though it is annoyingly repetitive and simple-minded. The repetition and simple-mindedness are actually a feature, not a bug, though it may not seem that way at first. If you aren't willing to endure a little boring repetition and simple-mindedness, though, you probably don't want your goal that much. ;-) Still another method: if you can state your disapproval in the form of a "should" or "shouldn't" statement, you can rephrase to a statement of preference instead of one of judgment. e.g., "I would prefer not having to graduate" instead of "I shouldn't have to graduate."
Poll results: LW probably doesn't cause akrasia

I've actually read about this connection in several self help blogs and posts. I also casually mention it in my comment earlier today.

I kind of remember getting the same idea from reading your book, maybe memory is foggy or you only hint at it.

4pjeby10yFind out what is objectionable to you about being the kind of person who would enjoyably and successfully achieve the outcome you're intending to intend to have, and stop objecting to it. For example, if your overt intention were to make a lot of money, but you noticed that your actual actions mysteriously kept interfering with that goal, then perhaps you apply the label "greedy" to people who actually make money, and would thus object to actually succeeding at that goal, because you yourself would become "greedy" by your own rules. The solution would be to stop disapproving of "greedy" people or change your rules for what constitutes being "greedy". Of course, it's rarely that simple: you might actually avoid making money because it involves being "a suit" or "a sellout" or a "drudge" or any number of a bazillion labels you could attach to people on the basis of actions like yours. The trick is to pay attention not only to what labels you'd apply to yourself if you achieved your ultimate goal (which itself is above the level of your overt goal), but also to what labels you'd apply if you were staying on task for more than a few days every few weeks. If you persisted, for example, would that make you a nerd or a bookworm, or be perceived as such by people in your life? On the ultimate goal level, if you actually succeeded in improving your job marketability, would that make you be seen as an overambitious wannabe or "thinks he's better than us" by significant people in your life (e.g. family or co-workers)? I don't claim that finding and fixing this is easy or even a "better" strategy, since (at least from your brain's point of view), your continual trying and failing may actually be an optimal compromise. ;-) (Consider that, if you succeed, you very well may lose some of your existing friends and allies.)
Poll results: LW probably doesn't cause akrasia

I cannot find any flaw in your statement. If it where just up to me I would just forget about school and give up. But it's not up to me.

I need to find a way to find the motivation to actually do the school work, but nothing i can come up with seems to work..

Blockers that come to mind are: "I'll fail the exams and have to pay extra money to do them again" "The information is so densly packed i can't follow half of it" "I say that i can accept a 6/10 but i don't really believe that(i want at least 8/10)" The list goes on, i thi... (read more)

0pjeby10yMy guess is that will only help to the extent that it doesn't get you any closer to actually succeeding in school (in the big picture), but admittedly that guess is based on very little information. However, my general observation that such tricks work on the small scale but not the larger scale is a very well-established pattern, so I will be quite surprised and curious should your trick actually work.
0[anonymous]10yI've had luck with "Once I get this done, it'll be done, and that'll feel awesome."

"I am doing X because Y." "Y does not motivate me to do X."

That's a flat-out contradiction. It means you've either mis-stated something or one of the statements is wrong.

In this case, it's the first statement that's inaccurate. First, you're not "doing school to improve your chances on the market"... because, as stated, you're not actually doing it, except for a few days out of most weeks.

So what you probably mean is, "I intend to do school to improve my chances on the market". But this statement is still false,... (read more)

Poll results: LW probably doesn't cause akrasia

I am doing school to improve my chances on the market. I have been working since i quit school at 18(31 now). The reason i need to finish school is so i can apply for better jobs or get a raise in my current one. There is also other financial benefits involved with finishing school (i'll get a 10.000 euro bonus when i do). But all that still does not motivate me to do it. There IS a lot of fear involved, i was a straight A student before i met the teacher from hell and soon after quit school.

EDIT: forgot to mention that the contents of the classes are for 80% or more relevant to my dayjob.

0pjeby10yThere are your two conflicting beliefs, right there. ;-)
Poll results: LW probably doesn't cause akrasia

I have a bunch that i cannot solve, maybe i have gone to low on them? in fact i've only fixed 3 or 4 so far, and they where all done in in a couple of beliefs.

I guess i never learned how to spot "going too low"

My biggest problem is doing school. I have been procrastinating on it for years and i can only bring my self to do brief bursts of work for a few days followed by weeks of doing nothing. I have tackled several conflicting beliefs but this one won't budge.

P.S. I would like to know about the progress on your new books. P.P.S It would be great if you could help/coach me somehow.

4pjeby10yThis may sound a bit flippant, but most likely the problem here is that you don't really want to do it. You want some other outcome that you think the school will get you -- not a real-world outcome but a relational outcome like your parents' approval. When the work doesn't result in you feeling like it's getting you any closer to your (covert subconscious) goal, it becomes discouraging and you give up. Does that sound about right? If so, it's not going to go anywhere as long as you're futzing around with beliefs that relate directly to your overt, school-related goals.
Poll results: LW probably doesn't cause akrasia

The most important thing i learned from less wrong is "Cause and Effect".

Since i filled out the poll i would like to say something.

What i think the poll did not take into account is that procrastination seems to be caused by conflicting beliefs. I can completely cure myself from procrastination on one specific subject if i manage to find and correct all the conflicting beliefs. It also helps to allign them with a goal you have, this turns a once procastination inducing task to something you get OCD about doing whenever it pops up.

But thats also a... (read more)

3pjeby10yJust a guess, but if you're gettting "dozens", I would ask: were you actually successful on the ones with "dozens" or are you still working on them? If the latter, I'd guess that you're working on the problem at too low a level.
Let Your Workers Gather Food

I guess i would like to see an exercise routine that was designed from the ground up to provide a nice balance of benefits vs injury risk, and then specifically a routine that you can keep doing indefinitely.

But maybe i'm not giving the breakdown of the human body enough weight...

I guess i just want a lifelong exercise plan with easy to follow steps, one that has a lot of evidence behind it that it won't cause early damage to bone, tissue, etc...

0Swimmer96310yI'm sure that such routines exist. There are probably books about them. I haven't investigated because I started exercising when I was younger than ten (swim team) and though I haven't always kept up the routine as much as I`d like, my level of fitness has never descended back to start-from-scratch. Walking and swimming are both low-impact. I know that for swimming specifically, there are numerous 'Masters' clubs that you can join at any level, where the idea is to keep it up indefinitely as opposed to training for a particular race or event.
Let Your Workers Gather Food

Thanks for taking the time to explain that.

That exercise works to some extent is clear, just look at bodybuilders. However i do not see a lot of evidence based work on exercises that find a good balance between health and body damage. You might notice that many bodybuilders no longer look so healthy after their 40's.

I'll keep searching.

0Swimmer96310yAre you talking about a specific type of high-performance exercise, or exercise in general? If the former, maybe you're right, but I still kinda doubt it. If the latter...yeah, maybe a 40-year-old bodybuilder doesn't look or feel as healthy as a 20-year-old bodybuilder. But I would bet you a lot of money that they are healthier than a 40-year-old who spent those 20 years not exercising. In general, I think, the direct health benefits of exercise (lower risk of heart disease, lower risk of osteoporosis) happen even with half an hour a day of fairly gentle aerobic exercise. Beyond that, you get what you train for. By that I mean: if you want to be able to run a marathon, you have to practice running long distances fast. If you want to be able to lift 400 pounds, you have to practice lifting heavy weights. The human body adapts to the load expected of it; that's the whole point of exercise. There are always tradeoffs, of course. Lifting weights is hard on your joints. Running can be too. But I've known plenty of people who are in their 40s, are very fit, and have managed to avoid injuries. (Granted, they were people who had done swimming, cross-country skiing, martial arts, that kind of thing. Not bodybuilding, which might be a bit more 'unbalanced.' Older people do have to be careful to avoid injuries and do take longer to recover than younger people.)
1NancyLebovitz10yFor what it's worth, Sonnon started out with a genetic disorder that affects his connective tissue. This means he's a lot more careful about recovery than anyone else I've heard of.
Let Your Workers Gather Food

I got the feeling this post was going to tell me how to become more awesome in a better way. At the end i felt like i was left hanging with no solution.

My guess would be that the lowest possible hanging fruit for this would be: Learning how to learn Being able to learn effectively seems to be the underpinning of all possible other things one might want to accomplish.

I would very much like to see a post that summarizes the current state of knowledge on learning and an applied "how to" in addition or in the same post.

Let Your Workers Gather Food

both pages look really spammy, how can i be more sure that i'm not looking at survivor biased individuals, or worse quacks selling snakeoil.

I'm very interested in the physical abilities part but almost everything seems to be bullshit.

4NancyLebovitz10yI'm not sure myself. A lot of the cheerleading makes me crazy, and I'm digging my way out from paralysis which was amplified by having cheerleading work backwards for me. However, I've got some verification on the physical side. Steve has strongly recommended the Five Tibetans (a sort of cross between yoga and calesthenics). If the material available for free online seems insufficient, try t5t [] , a book by someone who's taught them to 700 people-- it's got a lot of detail about how to learn the exercises, and to modify them if you're having problems. It's got a woo factor which I think would annoy you, but you can ignore that and just pull out the more materially based advice. I've found that the Tibetans clean up lower back pain for me, and have enabled me to fall safely-- an important issue for me because there's a fair amount of ice in the winter in Philadelphia, and I've hurt myself in the past. My t'ai chi teacher's been working with Sonnon's breathing and movement work, and has been healing joint injuries and getting more skilled. Also, he's having fun with working on the prasara yoga (moving yoga). The thing about the physical side is that it isn't just good practical advice, it takes an evidence-based attitude to come up with something that good. As for the rest, you're stuck using your own judgement. I don't know of anything solidly evidence-based in that range.
Studying business. Rational organizations.

There may be schools in the world somewhere where the MBA study actually teaches you something useful, in my country there are none.

To run a business you don't need any of the above things, a training in middle management is enough.

The things i mentioned are specifically for organizing a company for the first time, or reorganizing an existing one. That's what i use these skills for (and with high success)

Studying business. Rational organizations.

This is basically my job so here goes:

Get certified for the best management practices, these have been established by years of trial and error using a simplified version of the scientific method called Plan-Do-Check-Act.

The HPO Center Has done a lot of research on why companies stay in business for a long time, and how they remain market leader. The result is 35 rules that when followed give you a higher chance of being a long lasting market leader.

Another methodology you can get certified for is Six Sigma which revolves around reducing the number of error... (read more)

2Barry_Cotter10yIt seems to me that what you say could be reformulated, with minimal change in what's learned, as "Get thee an MBA from a good school." The overlap between the skills necessary to run an existing business with a known business model and to found one, even where the business model is known is not high. It might be as high as 50% for those cases where the model is known, but really, that's not high. I assume the MBA's weak relation to functioning without supervision, i.e. being an executive, is obvious. Did I miss or misintrepret what you said?
'Newcomblike' Video Game: Frozen Synapse

The review alone makes me want to play it!

Concepts Don't Work That Way

Yes i think you understood what i meant. It is a recursive system where you keep defining each thing in detail, hacking at the edges of reality until any hypotheses left are all equally valid.

It is hard work, and it is possibly too much for the brain to handle, but afaik, other than the handful of Direct Instruction studies nobody has done any really big tests. the tests done on the small scale where highly successful though.

I obviously program this stuff in a specially designed tool, which makes it intuitive and easy to keep defining the definitions deep... (read more)

0DSimon10yBut, the fuzziness isn't necessarily a flaw at all; having more and less typical examples of a category has shown itself to be pretty handy, since we can use the level-of-typicalness to influence how confidently we can make correlations ("birds lay eggs and have feathers and fly, X has feathers but doesn't fly, so I'm only pretty sure it lays eggs"). I think that would be a valuable feature in a fact database.
Intro-level training materials for rationality / critical thinking

i have tried the read-on thing on 2 pages and it made it even worse, so i dropped back to the opening pages tactic. That page you mention is actually one of the better ones although using examples like "Wulky Wilkinsen" and post utopianism made no sense to me. Having things explained elsewhere is a big problem imho, but i intend to devote some time to help fix that.

You may have been exposed to enough american culture by tv, movie, shows and books to not get overwhelmed by them?

0Bobertron10yThat's sort of the point. The words "post utopianism" and "colonial alienation" don't mean anything. Most movies and even tv-shows that run in Germany are actually American. Books might be more of a problem, but if it's a classic like the Christmas Carole, there is a Simpsons episode about it :)
Concepts Don't Work That Way

While reading this i got the idea that this article is attacking the current standards for “how to order things in nature”

I have two things to say in response:

  1. Direct Instruction and i guess the scientific method in general both claim/prove that you can cut reality at the exact joints required to make only those hypotheses that explain the thing available. (So we can come up with unfalsifiable set of data on what a “red” is).

  2. Only real data about a thing should be stored, flat things that say something concrete about the thing. Categorizing the thing in

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4DSimon10ySo if I follow: To record a fact like "has lungs" you first have to define "lungs". And then you run into the same problem: if you're not recording labels, then you have to identify lung objects from non-lung objects by specifying descriptors (has cell structure A, processes oxygen, etc.), and then you have to define those descriptors, and pretty soon your query for dolphins (or chairs, or oranges, or Libertarians) is a huge-ass quantum probability distribution which is a pain to deal with. To avoid having to write that huge query, you allow the user to specify conditionals in terms of other conditionals which were defined in advance. That gets you the same query in the end, but in a way that's a lot easier for the user. That sounds fine to me; in fact, it sounds like reductionism, which is very handy stuff indeed. However, it doesn't address the issue in the OP, which is that human concepts tend to act like fuzzy values, not like strictly delineated sets. Let's take a naive query high-level bird query: feathered vertebrate, flies, reproduces by laying eggs. That describes bird characteristics which are very useful, and which can't really be discarded; however, it excludes things that we commonly consider to be birds, such as parrots that have had their wings clipped, and penguins. Human brains can (and often do) apply labels to objects strongly or weakly. Your query language has to be similarly heuristical if you want it to be useful for all or even most of the questions humans tend to ask.
Intro-level training materials for rationality / critical thinking

I don't know math, quantum mechanics or philosophy, i had to open 10-20 pages of references and google searches to follow what was going on(per individual sequence page).

It reads as though it is assumed that you are a AI graduate.

Its also strongly aimed/influenced by american culture, so some things are weird for us Europeans.

3Bobertron10yPerhaps I'm used to read on, even if I might miss something. I know a bit of math, and there are a few posts that benefit from that, but only a few. I don't know much philosophy either (except the sequences, of course). Let's take Making Beliefs Pay Rent (in (Anticipated Experiences) [] as an example. What would you have to look up there? And don't say "colonial alienation" ;-). For me it might be phlogiston and elan-vital. But A) understanding those words is hardly essential for understanding the post and B) they are explained somewhere else in the sequences (I never said navigating them were easy). I'm European and I don't really know what you mean.
5pedanterrific10y(Is there such a thing as an "AI graduate"?) You know, while I appreciated the pop culture (and cult-classic culture) references in the Sequences while I was reading them, probably because I got almost all of them, I can definitely see the argument that they reduce accessibility for a wider audience.
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