The strong sign that it is not LLM-written is that it is short.

"Important" is ambiguous, in that I agree it matters, but it does for this civilization to ban whole life options from people until they have heard about niche philosophy. Most people will never hear about niche philosophy.

It's not a norm of discourse that one cannot state that a position is absurd. And it is a virtue of discourse to show up and argue for one's stances, as Habryka does throughout that thread!

This all feels galaxy-brained to me and like it proves too much. By analogy I feel like if you thought about population ethics for a while and came to counterintuitive conclusions, you might argue that people who haven't done that shouldn't be allowed to have children; or if they haven't thought about timeless decision theory for a while they aren't allowed to get a carry license.

Makes sense. I don't hold this stance; I think my stance is that many/most people are kind of insane on this, but that like with many topics we can just be more sane if we try hard and if some of us set up good institutions around it for helping people have wisdom to lean on in thinking about it, rather than having to do all their thinking themselves with their raw brain.

(I weakly propose we leave it here, as I don't think I have a ton more to say on this subject right now.)

I'd be interested to read a quick post from you that argued "Hunger-strikes are not the right tool for this situation; here is what they work for and what they don't work for. Here is my model of this situation and the kind of protests that do make sense."

I don't know much about protesting. Most of the recent ones that get big enough that I hear about them have been essentially ineffectual as far as I can recall (Occupy Wallstreet, Women's March, No Kings). I am genuinely interested in reading about effective and clearly effective protests led by anyone currently doing protests, or within the last 10 years. Even if on a small scale.

(My thinking isn't that protests have not worked in the past – I believe they have, MLK, Malcolm X, Women's Suffrage Movement, Vietnam War Protest, surely more – but that the current protesting culture has lost its way and is no longer effective.)

Relevantly, if any of them actually die, and if also it does not cause major change and outcry, I will probably think they made a foolish choice (where 'foolish' means 'should have known in advance this was the wrong call on a majorly important decision').

My modal guess is that they will all make real sacrifice, and stick it out for 10-20 days, then wrap up.

True, but neither is NaNoWriMo, so my guess is that it won't be confusing and would communicate more clearly by rhyming.

I think I somewhat agree that these hunger strikes will not shut down the companies or cause major public outcry.

I think that there is definitely something to be said that potentially our society is very poor at doing real protesting, and will just do haphazard things and never do anything goal-directed. That's potentially a pretty fundamental problem.

But setting that aside (which is a big thing to set aside!) I think the hunger-strike is moving in the direction of taking this seriously. My guess is most projects in the world don't quite work, but they're often good steps to help people figure out what does work. Like, I hope this readies people to notice opportunities for hunger strikes, and also readies them to expect people to be willing to make large sacrifices on this issue.