What stops an agent from generating adversarial fulfilment criteria for its goals that are easier to satisfy than the "real", external goals?
Because like, they terminally don't want to do? I guess in your frame, what I'd say is that people terminally value having their internal (and noisy) metrics not be too far off from the external states they are supposed to represent.
Intuitively your thesis doesn't sound right to me. My guess (1) most people do "reward hack" themselves quite a bit, and (2) to the extent that they don't, it's because they care about "doing the real thing." "Being real" feels to me like something that's meaningfully different than a lot of my other preference? Like it's sort of the basis for all other values.
FYI the paraphrasing stuff sounds like what Yoshua Bengio is trying to do with the scientist AI agenda. See his talk at the alignment workshop in Dec 2025.
(Although I feel like Bengio has shared very little about the actual progress they've made (if any), and also very little detail on what they've been up to).
Another distinguishing property of (AGI) alignment work is that it's forward looking and trying to solve future alignment problems. Given the large increase in AI safety work from academia, this feels like a useful property to keep in mind.
(Of course, this is not to say that we couldn't use current day problems as proxies for those future problems.)
I'm curious: what percent of upvotes are strong upvotes? What percent of karma comes from strong upvotes?
Yeah my guess is also that the average philosophy meetup person is a lot more annoying than the average, I dunno, boardgames meetup person.
Yeah I would like to mute some users site-wide so that I never see reacts from them & their comments are hidden by default....
As far as I'm aware of, this is one of the very few pieces of writing that sketches out what safety reassurances could be made for a model capable of doing significant harms. I wish there were more posts like this one.
This post and (imo more importantly) the discussion it spurred has been pretty helpful for how I think about scheming. I'm happy that it was written!
I mean it's possible that the evil looking AIs on Moltbook are just Grok, which is supposed to do evil role plays, right?