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AI Safety is Dropping the Ball on Clown Attacks
SpectrumDT4mo10

Conspiracy theorists are clowns.

This seems like a "No True Scotsman" statement to me. Your whole thesis here - that malicious actors would use social media and big data to manipulate people en masse - is clearly a "conspiracy theory". 

But of course when you say that conspiracy theorists are clowns, you don't mean that. You mean the clownish kind of conspiracy theorist...

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Why it's so hard to talk about Consciousness
SpectrumDT4mo10

Now I am confused. Do you care about animal ethics as part of your commitment to effective altruism? If so, how can you do that without reasoning about it? Or do you just ignore the animals?

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Why it's so hard to talk about Consciousness
SpectrumDT4mo10

Thanks for the response. 

I suppose you do not have any interest in effective altruism either?

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Why it's so hard to talk about Consciousness
SpectrumDT4mo10

Thanks for the response.

You make it sound as though enjoyment and suffering are just arbitrary and unimportant shorthands to describe certain mechanistic processes.

From that perspective, how do you reason about animal ethics? For that matter, why does any ethics matter at all?

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Those of you with lots of meditation experience: How did it influence your understanding of philosophy of mind and topics such as qualia?
SpectrumDT5mo10

I do not think I communicated my point properly. Let me try again:

Showing compassion is not free. It has a cost. To show compassion for someone you might need to take action to help them, or refrain from taking some action that might harm them.

How much effort do you spend on showing compassion for a human being?

How much effort do you spend on showing compassion for an earthworm?

How much effort do you spend on showing compassion for a plant?

How much effort do you spend on showing compassion for an NPC in a video game?

I don't know about you, but I am willing to expend a decent amount of effort into compassion for a human. Less for an earthworm, but still some, because I suspect the earthworm can experience joy and suffering. Even less for a plant, because I suspect that it probably cannot experience anything. And I put close to zero effort into compassion for an NPC in a video game, because I am fairly convinced that the NPC cannot experience anything (if I show the NPC compassion, it is for my own sake, not theirs).

But I might be wrong. If a philosophical argument could convince me that any of these things experience more or less than I thought they did, I would adjust my priorities accordingly.

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Those of you with lots of meditation experience: How did it influence your understanding of philosophy of mind and topics such as qualia?
SpectrumDT5mo10

I have another question: It seems to me that philosophy of mind is valuable for ethical reasons because it attempts to figure out which things have minds that can experience enjoyment and suffering, which has implications for how we should act. Do you disagree?

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Those of you with lots of meditation experience: How did it influence your understanding of philosophy of mind and topics such as qualia?
SpectrumDT5mo10

Thanks. What is PNSE? "Persistent non-symbolic experience"?

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Those of you with lots of meditation experience: How did it influence your understanding of philosophy of mind and topics such as qualia?
SpectrumDT5mo40

Good question!

I have gained a lot of emotion handling skill. This lets me be calmer and kinder to my wife and my son and other people. It also means I suffer less because I can more easily detect negative thoughts and feelings and (to some extent) disengage from them rather than feed them.

I am also slowly getting better at actively cultivating positive/happy/pleasant mind states.

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Those of you with lots of meditation experience: How did it influence your understanding of philosophy of mind and topics such as qualia?
SpectrumDT5mo10

Neat! Thanks!

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Those of you with lots of meditation experience: How did it influence your understanding of philosophy of mind and topics such as qualia?
SpectrumDT5mo52

I speak not from experience here, but according to my limited understanding, the idea is that most or all ideas of the "self" are more-or-less arbitrary abstractions like the Ship of Theseus. 

Via western philosophy of mind you can gain some understanding of this idea and convince yourself that it is probably true, but via meditation AFAIU it becomes possible to observe this directly in your own mind.

The benefits of "transcending" the concept of self, I believe, is that you suffer less and become happier.

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14Those of you with lots of meditation experience: How did it influence your understanding of philosophy of mind and topics such as qualia?
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7Supposing that the "Dead Internet Theory" is true or largely true, how can we act on that information?
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18Does the "ancient wisdom" argument have any validity? If a particular teaching or tradition is old, to what extent does this make it more trustworthy?
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2What are the effective utilitarian pros and cons of having children (in rich countries)?
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18How great is the utility of "saving" endangered languages?
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0Has anyone here written about religious fictionalism?
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13Are most people deeply confused about "love", or am I missing a human universal?
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2Things can be difficult in 3 ways: Painful, time-consuming, or uncontrollable. Is this reasonable to say?
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13How to deal with the sense of demotivation that comes from thinking about determinism?
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5Has anyone here investigated the occult community? It is curious to me that many magicians consider themselves empiricists.
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