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Survival without dignity
TropicalFruit7mo50

“Twitter, I mean X” in 2045 had me dying. So did the California red tape part. Awesome job.

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Neutrality
TropicalFruit8mo10

Agreed, and we have well-meaning conservatives like Ben Shapiro taking marriage and monogamy as almost an unfalsifiable good, and then using it as a starting point for their entire political philosophy. Maybe he's right, but I wish realistic post-birth-control norms were actually part of the overton window.

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Neutrality
TropicalFruit8mo90

I think much of the difficulty comes from the fact that past systems-of-the-world, the unexamined normalcies that functioned only in silence, were de facto authored by evolution, so they were haphazard patchworks that worked, but without object level understanding, which makes them particualrly tricky to replace.

Take ancient fermentation rituals. They very well may break down when a child asks "why do we have to bury the fish?" or "why bury it this long?" or "why do we have to let it sit for 4 months now?"

The elder doesn't know the answer. All he knows is that, if you don't follow these steps, people who eat the fish get sick and die.

Going from that system, to the better system involving chemistry and the germ theory of disease, is a massive step, and unfortunately, there's a large gap between realizing your elder has no idea what's going on, and figuring out the chemical process behind fermentation.

We're suffering in this gap right now, unwinding many similar unexamaned normalcies that were authored by cultural evolution, which we don't yet have comprehensive models to replace. Marriage and monogomy are a good example. After birth control, that system started quickly collapsing when the first child asked "why" and no adults could give a good answer, yet we still don't have anything close to a unified theory of human mating, relationships, and child-rearing that's better.

The tough part of building new neutral common sense is that, in so many cases right now, we don't actually know the right answer, all we know is that the old cultural wisdom is at best incomplete, and at worst totally anachronistic.

Social media was essentially like 3 billion kids asking "why" all at once, about a mostly-still-patchwork system mostly authored by evolution, so it's no real surprise it fell apart. Despite those whys being justified, replacing something evolution has created with a gears level comprehensive model is really, really hard.

Worthy task, of course, but I think fundamentally more complex than the manner by which the original systems were created.

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Dating Roundup #3: Third Time’s the Charm
TropicalFruit8mo10

I'm single because my current location is amazing in every way except its density of young, childless people. I have met somewhere between 300-1000 people over the last 4 years, and of those, 8 have been women between the ages of 20-30.

Most are 40+ parents, the rest are those parents' kids. The sad truth (I think), is that I simply have to move if I want to date.

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Dating Roundup #1: This is Why You’re Single
TropicalFruit9mo10

Same. It would take incredible effort to find one person I reasonably connect with each year. 

So much of this is just location. I've met 100s of people over the last few years. Nearly all either over 40 with kids, or those kids. I've connected with many, maybe 10%, on a pretty good level. That doesn't help with dating at all.

I just really, really don't want it to be the case that he only answer is: move to NY, SF, or Seattle, becuase I really like it here.

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UFO Betting: Put Up or Shut Up
TropicalFruit9mo53

As someone who's gambled professionally, I believe the (Chesterton's) fence around betting for normies exists because most bets are essentially scams, which is why I'm entirely okay knocking it down for LWers. Let me elaborate.

Probability is complicated and abstract. Not only that, human intuition is really bad at it. Nearly all "bets" throughout our modern history have not been the kind of skin-in-the-game prediction competition we're praising on lesswrong - they've been predatory. One person who understands probability using emotional and logical minipulation to take someone else's money, who doesn't.

Society protects people with taboos. "Betting is icky" is a meme that can easily spread, and will quickly reproduce, becuase it's adaptive in this betting environment. [Dissertation about Bayesian reasoning, calibration, and the Kelley Criterion] is NOT a meme that can easily spread, because it's far too complex and long, and thus it will not reproduce (even though it is also adaptive).

Or at least, it can't spread in the normie population, but it CAN on LessWrong, which is why, on LessWrong, most bets are not scams. They are, in fact, what the scammers falsly proclaimed their own bets to be - friendly competitions wherein two people who disagree about the future both put skin in the game.

The sportsbooks and casinos we have today are predators. From their celebrity endorsements, to the way they form their commercials, to their messaging around winning (and especially parlays), they effectively lie about what they're selling while trying to create addicts. I've engaged with many people across the betting experience spectrum (from other winners, to big losers, to smart people, who were small losers, and realized they needed to quit), and it's pretty clear to me that "betting = icky" is a reasonable idea, even today The fence around it is not Chesterton's, though. It's there to help regular people avoid a certain species of predator gunning for their capital.

We can safely knock it down on here.

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I'm consistently overwhelmed by basic obligations. Are there any paradigm shifts or other rationality-based tips that would be helpful?
Answer by TropicalFruitOct 13, 202410

You could be hypothyroid. What's your morning body temperature?

I've had the exact same experience. Chores like that are the exact kind of thing your brain says "nope" to (forcefully) when you don't have enough energy available. I've had this symptom for most of my life, and it's gone away during the times I've been healthiest. 

This - small chores seeming entirely awful - was positively correlated with all my other symptoms: insomina, depression, acne, brain fog, idopathic fatigue, and breathlessness under exertion (much more than normal). They all arrive and abate together, indicating they're all the result of an underlying root cause, and it's probably low energy availability, since my body temp has been 96.5 for most of my life.

That's my current hypothesis anyway, and the QOL improvements getting up to ~97.4 have been tremendous, so I'm sticking with it.

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Incorrect hypotheses point to correct observations
TropicalFruit9mo10

Shout out to Karl Marx for correctly identifying many issues with what he called capitalism, but providing a compeltely inaccurate hypothesis as to the root cause of those issues.

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Genuine question: If Eliezer is so rational why is he fat?
Answer by TropicalFruitAug 25, 20242-1

This is a perfectly reasonable question. No one wants to be fat, so it follows that no highly competent individual will be fat.

Turns out, it's just a very difficult problem, and that degree of difficulty also varies greatly between people. It's far more difficult for certain individuals than for others. 

No one really knows why, yet. If they did, we'd all be thin and healthy again.

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Thoughts on seed oil
TropicalFruit11mo10

Agreed with this objection. And the "low caloric density" thing is, imo, just flat out wrong, especially if you're an athlete.

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