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My Empathy Is Rarely Kind
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I'm curious, if you imagine someone who is more conscientious and making better life descisions than you, if they were to look upon you, do you expect them to see you as some kind of cat as well? Similarily, if you were to imagine a less conscientious version of yourself? If you can find empathy here, maybe just extend along these lines to cover more people. 

Also, having a deterministic view of the universe makes it easy for me to find empathy. I just assume that if i was born with their genetics and their experiences I would be making the exact same descisions that they are now. I use that as a connection between myself and them and through that connection I can be kinder to them as I would hope someone would be kinder to me in that situation. If you have sympthy for people born into poverty, it's the same concept. 

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OpenAI Claims IMO Gold Medal
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This is important context not only for evaluating Greg Burnham's accuracy but also for the Gold Medal headline. If this difficulty chart is accurate (still no idea on the maths), getting 5/6 is not much of a surprise. Even question 2 and 5 seem abnormally easy relative to previous years. 

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OpenAI Claims IMO Gold Medal
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I have no idea of the maths, but reading through the epoch article it seems to me that this result is entirely unexpected. 

"but this year I’d only give a 5% chance to either a qualitatively creative solution or a solution to P3 or P6 from an LLM."

Sure it's unreleased LLM but it still seems to be an LLM. 

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Childhood and Education #11: The Art of Learning
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I bite the bullet. I do think it’s fine and actively good to have 7-year-olds and 17-year-olds in the same math classroom. Of course, if you think that learning is bad, you won’t like this plan to have kids learn

I'd be keen to hear an explanation of this bullet biting. My instincts tell me it's a very bad idea and I imagine most people would agree but I'm interested in more details.

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Let's stop making "Intelligence scale" graphs with humans and AI
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I find this graph useful. I think you can agree at some point that AI will be more intelligent than humans, even if AI intelligence is quite different and lacking in a few (fewer every year) areas. If this is the case then this graph is quite effective at conveying that this point may be happening soon. 

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Why Should I Assume CCP AGI is Worse Than USG AGI?
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Thanks for the reply, you'll be happy to know I'm not a bot. I actually mostly agree with everything you wrote so apologies if I don't reply as extensively as you have. 

There's no doubt the CCP are oppressing the Chinese people. Ive never used TikTok and never intend to (and I think it's being used as a propaganda machine). I agree that Americans have far more freedom of speech and company freedom than in China. I even think it's quite clear that Americans will be better off with Americans winning the AI race. 

The reason I am cautious boils down to believing that as AI capabilities get close to ASI or powerful AI, governments (both US and Chinese) will step in and basically take control of the projects. Imagine if the nuclear bomb was first developed by a private company, they are going to get no say in how it is used. This would be harder in the US than in China but it would seem naive to assume it can't be done. 

If this powerful AI is able to be steered by these governments, when imagining Trump's decisions VS Xi's in this situation it seems quite negative either way and I'm having trouble seeing a positive outcome for the non-American, non-Chinese people. 

On balance, America has the edge, but it's not a hopeful situation if powerful AI appears in the next 4 years. Like I said, I'm mostly concerned about the current leadership, not the American people's values. 

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Why Should I Assume CCP AGI is Worse Than USG AGI?
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I notice you're talking a lot about the values of American people but only talk about what the leaders of China are doing or would do. 

If you just compare both leaders likelihood of enacting a world government, once again there is no clear winner.

And if the intelligence of the governing class is of any relevance to the likelihood of a positive outcome, um, CCP seems to have USG beat hands down.

--Intelligence is only a positive sign when the agent that is intelligent cares about you.

I'm interpreting this as "intelligence is irrelevant if the CCP doesn't care about you." Once again you need to show that Trump cares more about us (citizens of the world) than the CCP. As a non-American it is not clear to me that he does.

I think the best argument for America over China would be the idea that Trump will be replaced in under 4 years with someone much more ethical. 

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Power Lies Trembling: a three-book review
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Great article, I found the decision theory behind, if they think I think they think etc very interesting. I'm a bit confused about the knight of faith. In my mental model, people who look like the knight of faith aren't accepting the situation is hopeless, but rather powering on through some combination of mentally minimizing barriers, pinning hopes on small odds and wishful thinking.

For example lets put it in the context of flipping 10 coins. 

Rationalist - I'm expecting 5 heads

My model of knight of faith - I'm expecting 10 heads because there's a slight chance and I really need it to be true. 

Knight of faith as described - I'm expecting 20 heads and I'm going to base my decisions on 20 heads actually happening. 

Maybe that's an obvious distinction but in that case why bring up the knight of faith and instead just focus on the power of wishful thinking in some situations. 

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A Dissent on Honesty
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Great post! I really enjoy your writing style. I agree with everything up to your last sentence of cooperative epistemics. It looks like a false equivalence between a community of perfect trust and a community based on mistrust. I'm thinking a community of "trust but verify" with a vague assumption of goodwill will capture all the benefits of mistrust without the risks of half rationalists or "half a forum of autists" going off the deep end and making a carrying error in their EV calculations to overly negative results.

Corrupted Hardware leads me to think we need to aim high to end up at an optimum level of honesty. 

Edit: Thanks Cole and Shankar. 

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Debunk the myth -Testing the generalized reasoning ability of LLM
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It does seem like LLMs struggle with "trick" questions that are ironically close to well known trick questions but with an easier answer. Simple Bench is doing much the same thing and models do seem to be improving over time. I guess the important question is whether this flaw will effect more sophisticated work. 

On another note I find your question 2 to be almost incomprehensible and my first instinct would be to try to trap the bug by feeling for it with my hands. 

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