Do you think the zizian philosophy, with its particular interpretation of TDT, will cause Teresa to reject a plea deal and go to trial? I'd love to see more details of the shootout come out, but that really only seems likely if there is a trial, and as far as I can tell Teresa is the only one alive to try. Or maybe also Jamie as the one who provided the guns used?

It might be useful to have somewhere a chart of legal names and chosen names so that those of us not on rationalist twitter can keep track. Ivory is the Max who has been charged with Mr. Lind's murder?

I believe the fear is something more like rationalists converting to Zizianism, and thereby becoming murderers, as happened to Ophelia (Felix) among others. At least that is my primary fear.

I believe it was Teresa Youngblut, not Ophelia (Felix) , who first pulled a gun and opened fire. Only after the shooting between Teresa and the border patrol started did Ophelia (Felix) pull a gun.

Ophelia (also called Felix, the German who died in the shootout with border patrol) was an acquaintance of mine, though I hadn't heard anything from or about her in a couple of years. I had read her as a nonviolent nerd, possibly overzealous in protecting her community but definitely not the murdery type. My big questions are about how she got from the person I remember to this. Did she actually try to draw a gun on a cop in the middle of a shootout? It seems likely, as the reporting all seems to be consistent with that, and I don't know why the cops would lie about that when the shooting would likely have been justified either way. If so, what drove her to that point? Even if not, how did she get so involved with such a murderous bunch? What were they trying to do with all that tactical gear in rural Vermont?

How would I notice if I or a friend of mine started to go down a similar road? Ophelia wasn't stupid, whatever happened to her is probably a danger for smart people. I can obviously avoid people associated with ziz, and hemispheric sleep, but is there more I should be thinking about?