My attempts of creating summaries with ChatGPT violated the content policies last I tried.
There is lots of OSINT work to do, but until I have normalised all the ID data out from the message data, I am not comfortable handing it over to OSINT specialists or their AIs.
Yes, but it's probably closer to saving maybe 25 lives, and saving 500 people from stalking/abuse/etc
The data is not public. I accessed it anyhow. Perhaps you want to listen to the podcast to get a fuller chronology, I have not written it up yet.
Publishing the whole list, without precise addresses
To identify a person internationally, a name isn't enough, you must also supply an address or social media links.
I've performed medium level OSINT on most people so I annotate a fair bit of extra info internally.
I do have tentative plans to publish a highly redacted format, such as 'A <seriousness level> plot where someone <did/didn't pay> to <kill/beat/harm> a <number of persons> of <genders> in <city/state/location + country> who appears to be <relationship-details> and <any other key details> who is can be found via <address only/social media> which <has/hasn't> been reported to <le agency/media/other>
Honestly it's depressing reading through the cases to the level I can write this up. I have the payer status, crime type, location, address, report details and social info mostly normalised, but I would have to parse all cases again to create this.
To my initial point, this is harmful to me. (And anyone)
Up to late 2023
Do you know anyone who could guide me through this process?
Interpol (and Europol) doesn't work for the public, only for incumbent law enforcement agencies.
Europol took explicit credit for one case, https://www.europol.europa.eu/media-press/newsroom/news/dark-web-hitman-identified-through-crypto-analysis but that was actually overturned in the Italian courts years later.
Attempts by the podcast team to route cases from the UK through to Interpol and other countries yielded no results, likely due to the game of 'telephone' such referrals go through. One case in India ended up informing the would-be-killer about his plot being discovered.
I would of course work with volunteers, but the work is stressful and brings you into contact with people unsafe situations and hostile and skeptical law enforcement. I guess it's akin to being a social services worker. My limited attempts to do this has not yielded results.
'I'll help!'
<shares email of local police station>
Exposing this information gives ammunition to ruin lives, and it has. I remain anxious about sharing it with people who's trustworthiness I can't vouch for.
It varies depending on how powerful the law enforcement agency is and whether they understand it or not, with the FBI and German Federal police being the most effective.
It's not all saving lives, often it's protecting people from stalking, physical and mental abuse, child custody disputes and the like, because in many cases (especially so with women perpetrators) they would never actually turn to violence themselves.
I have not been party to all of the journalist hard costs for local investigators, but I think they were doing at least $3,000 initially per major case, but they would go higher when it looked like this would turn into a full podcast episode. There is... (read more)
I've looked! The only one that comes close I am aware of is https://globalinitiative.net/ with whom I have been trying to engage for some time. There appears to be more money to study crime and do things like victim support than any money to fight crime.
If I were to speculate, policing agencies would not like the existence of non state-aligned policing agencies, being considered like mercenaries, private detectives, vigellantes and hacktivists.
Any body who could appear sufficiently legitimate in the eyes of the law would be subsumed into the system by definition I reckon.
Hi all
I've been hanging around the rationalist-sphere for many years now, mostly writing about transhumanism, until things started to change in 2016 after my Wikipedia writing habit shifted from writing up cybercrime topics, through to actively debunking the numerous dark web urban legends.
After breaking into what I believe to be the most successful ever fake murder for hire website ever created on the dark web, I was able to capture information about people trying to kill people all around the world, often paying tens of thousands of dollars in Bitcoin in the process.
My attempts during this period to take my information to the authorities were mostly unsuccessful, when in late 2016 on... (read 475 more words →)
I am sure there are some interesting uses of agented AIs in can configure for automated OSINT but this feels quite large a task given I am bottlenecking more in who to hand the data to rather than it being insufficiency rich.
Know any preconfigured agency menageries for something like this?