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The Critical Rationalist View on Artificial Intelligence

You need any framework, but never provided one. I have a written framework, you don't. GG.

The Critical Rationalist View on Artificial Intelligence

genetic algorithms often write and later read data, just like e.g. video game enemies. your examples are irrelevant b/c you aren't addressing the key intellectual issues. this example also adds nothing new over examples that have already been addressed.

you are claiming it's a certain kind of writing and reading data (learning) as opposed to other kinds (non-learning), but aren't writing or referencing anything which discusses this matter. you present some evidence as if no analysis of it was required, and you don't even try to discuss the key issues. i take it that, as with prior discussion, you're simply ignorant of what the issues are (like you simply take an unspecified common sense epistemology for granted, rather than being able to discuss the field). and that you won't want to learn or seriously discuss, and you will be hostile to the idea that you need a framework in which to interpret the evidence (and thus go on using your unquestioned framework that is one of the cultural defaults + some random and non-random quirks).

The Critical Rationalist View on Artificial Intelligence

If you want to debate that you need an epistemology which says what "knowledge" is. References to where you have that with full details to rival Critical Rationalism?

Or are you claiming the OP is mistaken even within the CR framework..? Or do you have no rival view, but think CR is wrong and we just don't have any good philosophy? In that case the appropriate thing to do would be to answer this challenge that no one even tried to answer: https://www.lesserwrong.com/posts/85mfawamKdxzzaPeK/any-good-criticism-of-karl-popper-s-epistemology

The Critical Rationalist View on Artificial Intelligence

AlphaZero clearly isn't general purpose. What are we even debating?

The Critical Rationalist View on Artificial Intelligence

yes that'd be my first guess – that it's caused by something in the gene pool of orcas. why not? and what else would it be?

The Critical Rationalist View on Artificial Intelligence

Here are some examples of domains other than game playing: architecture, chemistry, cancer research, website design, cryonics research, astrophysics, poetry, painting, political campaign running, dog toy design, knitting.

The fact that the self-play method works well for chess but not poetry is domain knowledge the programmers had, not something alphazero figured out for itself.

The Critical Rationalist View on Artificial Intelligence

If they wanna convince anyone it isn't using domain-specific knowledge created by the programmers, why don't they demonstrate it in the straightforward way? Show results in 3 separate domains. But they can't.

If it really has nothing domain specific, why can't it work with ANY domain?

The Critical Rationalist View on Artificial Intelligence

They chose a limited domain and then designed and used an algorithm that works in that domain – which constitutes domain knowledge. The paper's claim is blatantly false; you are gullible and appealing to authority.

The Critical Rationalist View on Artificial Intelligence

"This means we can create any knowledge which it is possible to create."

Is there any proof that this is true?

are you asking for infallible proof, or merely argument?

anything rigorous?

see this book http://beginningofinfinity.com (it also addresses most of your subsequent questions)

Open Letter to MIRI + Tons of Interesting Discussion

That aspect of the timeline actually is public information, you just don't know it. Again you've made a false factual claim (about what is or isn't public info).

You are clinging to a false narrative from a position of ignorance, while still trying to attack me (now I suck at thinking in a fact based way, apparently because I factually corrected you) rather than reconsidering anything.

I've told you what happened. You don't believe me and started making up factually false claims to fit your biases, which aren't going anywhere when corrected. You think someone like David Deutsch couldn't possibly like and value my philosophical thinking all that much. You're mistaken.

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