> Putting communication through a filter imposes a cost, which will inevitably tend to discourage communication in the long term.
As does allowing people to be unduly abrasive. But on top of that, communities where conversations are abrasive attract a lower caliber of person than one where they are...(read more)
I appreciate your offer to talk things out together! To the extent that I'm feeling bad and would feel better after talking things out, I'm inclined to say that my current feelings are serving a purpose, i.e. to encourage me to keep pressing on this issue whenever doing so is impactful. So I prefer ...(read more)
Your comment was perfectly fine, and you don't need to apologize; see my response to komponisto above for my reasons for saying that. Apologies on my part as there's a strong chance I'll be without internet for several days and likely won't be able to further engage with this topic.
Duncan's original wording here was fine. The phrase "telling the humans I know that they're dumb or wrong or sick or confused" is meant in the sense of "socially punishing them by making claims in a certain way, when those claims could easily be made without having that effect".
To put it another w...(read more)
> assess why the community has not yet shunned them
Hi! I believe I'm the only person to try shunning them, which happened on Facebook a month ago (since Zack named himself in the comments, see [here](https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=139541349919947&id=100015922477940), and [here](...(read more)
This all sounds right, but the reasoning behind using the wording of "bad faith" is explained in the second bullet point of [this comment](http://lesswrong.com/r/discussion/lw/oyf/bad_intent_is_a_disposition_not_a_feeling/drw0).
*Tl;dr* the module your brain has for detecting things that feel like ...(read more)
nod. This does seem like it should be a continuous thing, rather than System 1 solely figuring things out in some cases and System 2 figuring it out alone in others.
Amusingly, one possible explanation is that the people who gave Gleb pushback on here were operating on bad-faith-detecting intuitions--this is supported by the quick reaction time. I'd say that those intuitions were good ones, if they lead to those folks giving Gleb pushback on a...(read more)
I'm very glad that you asked this! I think we can come up with some decent heuristics:
* If you start out with some sort of inbuilt bad faith detector, try to see when, in retrospect, it's given you accurate readings, false positives, and false negatives. I catch myself doing this without having pl...(read more)
> I think the burden of evidence is on the side disagreeing with the intuitions behind this extremely common defensive response
Note also that most groups treat their intuitions about whether or not someone is acting in bad faith as evidence worth taking seriously, and that we're remarkable in how ...(read more)