FourFire

Replying toThe Friendly Drunk Fool Alignment Strategy

The Friendly Drunk Fool Alignment Strategy

I have benefited from linking your post to others as a reference point for non-constructive alignment approaches, so don't feel any guilt I expect that if we live for another few years this post will pay for the damage it's caused ;)

Replying toThe Friendly Drunk Fool Alignment Strategy

FourFire3y

The Friendly Drunk Fool Alignment Strategy

I believe you have psychologically harmed me.

Well done!

I appreciate what appears to be your very best effort.
We certainly need to keep working on this category of problem until:

20 years pass and somehow we're still alive and everything is great!

Replying to"Publish or Perish" (a quick note on why you should try to make your work legible to existing academic communities)

FourFire3y

"Publish or Perish" (a quick note on why you should try to make your work legible to existing academic communities)

I must admit confusion, and a quick googling does not alleviate it;
For those of us outside of academia, what exactly do you mean by "AF style publication"?

Replying toThe Principled Intelligence Hypothesis

FourFire8y

The Principled Intelligence Hypothesis

My first comment on the new forum, please give feedback on which community norms I inevitably end up violating.

I'll attack the first section of your post, and I'll be disregarding the controversial intelligence-autism correlation.

a person who is both unusually smart

You are an outlier, the rules aren't made with you in mind.

Most people are forced break some rules in order to win, but from the perspective of most people, you can do moves which are impossible.

You can Win without breaking any rules.

Why would you throw away utility by taking unnecessary risk?

You benefit from everyone around you being more constrained by rules which they can't help but break and you can navigate trivally. In short you benefit the most by making the meritocracy gauged by something you're good at.

Risk is either for plebs who can't avoid it, or outliers who have spent their lives practicing how to do risk well.

The latter group we call "billionaires".

Replying toProject Hufflepuff: Planting the Flag

FourFire9y

Project Hufflepuff: Planting the Flag

My steelmanning of Ialdaboath's claim isn't that it is impossible to succeed without being a psychopath. (Though I would definitely agree that his perspective is rather dreary and pessimistic) It is that the paths to success in society have been distorted by psychopaths into requiring one to express psychopathic traits in order to succeed a lot more of the time than would be the case in absence of psychopaths within the ruling elite.

Replying toProject Hufflepuff: Planting the Flag

FourFire9y

Project Hufflepuff: Planting the Flag

I think ialdabaoth's claim is valid if, when measured, the most politically and culturally powerful quintile of the world population proves to be more than 1-4% clinical psychopaths.

I am assuming the top quintile of world population is what is meant by winners: people who control a disproportionate amount of the world's resources, and by proxy, people.

The USA has the world's largest prison population, of ~2.2MIllion and a total population of ~316 Million (both 2013)

If we were to expect an even distribution of Psychopathy across the bellcurve of intelligence then there should be between ~1.58 Mn and ~6.32Mn Psychopaths in the US prison system. Furthermore, we should expect 35.5Mn to 142Mn worldwide prison population... (read more)

Replying toNo One Knows What Science Doesn't Know

FourFire9y

No One Knows What Science Doesn't Know

Enjoy your stay!

I think most of the people who were around ten, or even six years ago now consider this place a mostly static repository of articles which are useful to refer to, rather than a dynamic community forum capable of generating more of said articles.

Replying toA quick note on weirdness points and Solstices [And also random other Solstice discussion]

FourFire9y

A quick note on weirdness points and Solstices [And also random other Solstice discussion]

While I agree with your sentiment, I also care substantially more about the continued success and growth of solstices than about one or two participants of such events being deeply offended.

Elo is taking a stand here, which I believe needs to be taken, and few others are due to following the social norms of pre-emptively not offending people.

I admit I am confused; is sidestepping around the issue part of Ask or Guess culture?

Replying toA quick note on weirdness points and Solstices [And also random other Solstice discussion]

FourFire9y

A quick note on weirdness points and Solstices [And also random other Solstice discussion]

I wonder where this form of communication lands in Ask, Tell, or Guess Culture?

Replying toOn the importance of Less Wrong, or another single conversational locus

FourFire9y

On the importance of Less Wrong, or another single conversational locus

I agree completely.
Politics has most certainly damaged the potential of SSC. Notably, far fewer useful insights have resulted from the site and readership than was the case with LessWrong at it's peak, but that is how Yvain wanted it I suppose. The comment section has, according to my understanding become a haven for NRx and other types considered unsavoury by much of the rationalist community, and the quality of the discussion is substantially lower in general than it could have been.
Sure.
Codebase, just start over, but carry over the useful ideas implemented, such as disincentivizing flamewars by making responses to downvoted comments cost karma, zero initial karma awarded for posting, and any other rational discussion fostering mechanics which have become apparent since then.
I agree, make this site read only, use it and the wiki as a knowledge base, and start over somewhere else.

Meetup : Oslo Lesswrong meetup, September

FourFire

10y

Discussion article for the meetup : Oslo Lesswrong meetup, September

WHEN: 26 September 2015 09:32:33AM (+0200)

WHERE: youngs gate 6, oslo

Hello, and welcome to the September Lesswrong meetup, in Oslo! We will be meeting up at the largest hackerspace in town, once again, and will have several interesting topics to discuss including: Psychological attractors in the near future Self modification Bioethics ...and many others which will be brought up during the meetup.

Discussion article for the meetup : Oslo Lesswrong meetup, September

Meetup : Oslo Meetup at Bitraf.

FourFire

11y

Discussion article for the meetup : Oslo Meetup at Bitraf.

WHEN: 18 July 2015 04:00:00PM (+0200)

WHERE: Youngsgate 6, Oslo

Welcome to the second Oslo meetup, at one of the most prominent hackerspaces in town. We will be discussing a number of topics including:

How did you find lesswrong?
Rational fiction
Effective Altruism
Present and Near Future transhumanism
X-risk
Social engineering

I look forward to seeing people from the last meetup, and those of you who couldn't make it last time.

Discussion article for the meetup : Oslo Meetup at Bitraf.

Meetup : Oslo Meetup at Bitraf.

FourFire

11y

Discussion article for the meetup : Oslo Meetup at Bitraf.

WHEN: 29 May 2015 05:30:00PM (+0200)

WHERE: Youngstorget 6, Oslo

Welcome to the second Lesswrong meetup, this time at a hackerspace.

The entrance is a bit quirky: a big green double door With "NILZ" in yellow writing over it, just ring the doorbell marked "bitraf" and say anything.

As with last meetup there will be several topics up for discussion, but I won't list them here.

I hope some of those who couldn't make it last week will turn up then :)

Discussion article for the meetup : Oslo Meetup at Bitraf.

Reminder: Oslo Lesswrong meetup...

FourFire

11y

... is happening 17:00 local time today at the UiO Science library.

There will be cookies and popcorn, and those other reasons for attending a meetup.

If enough of the people who turn up are interested, this may become an annual, monthly, or even weekly event.

Current topics we will be discussing (subject to change of course):

* Introduction

* Raising the sanity waterline

* Effective Altruism

* Transhumanism / Futurism

(and sub-topics thereof)

There will be a sign with explicit directions to where in the building the meetup is located at the entrance.

Further planned meetups will be fleshed out then.

I look forward to seeing you there ;)

Meetup : Oslo LessWrong Meetup

FourFire

11y

Discussion article for the meetup : Oslo LessWrong Meetup

WHEN: 22 May 2015 05:15:00PM (+0200)

WHERE: Vilhelm Bjerknes Hus, 0851 Oslo

Welcome to the first annual Oslo meetup. We will be meeting up quarter past five on Friday, inside the University of Oslo's STEM library, which is open until 21:55. A second meetup will take place on the following Saturday at this location: http://map.what3words.com/softest.desire.hurry Here is the timetable: http://doodle.com/4t9z7zs3braz6fdp I'm looking forward to seeing some of you lurkers there ;)

EDIT: in light of this comment: http://lesswrong.com/lw/bc2/setting_up_lw_meetups_in_unlikely_places_positive/671o

I will be making at least one sign so people need not worry about finding their way :)

Discussion article for the meetup : Oslo LessWrong Meetup

Meetup: Oslo LessWrong meetup planning thread.

FourFire

11y

After some deliberation, I realized that an Oslo meetup wasn't going to happen by itself, and after my somewhat abortive (and way too late) attempt to organize a PI day HP:MoR wrapup meeting, I decided to just do it, and announce that it's happening, four weeks in advance.

Please add yourself to the coordination timetable.

Here are the possible locations:

UiO Science library (only open on the friday).

Hackerspace-Makerspace.

I'd prefer to meet up at the Library, because it seems like the perfect place for a LessWrong meetup, and it's open to the public until 10PM.
However if it doesn't suit enough people, timewise, then I do have 24/7 access to the hackerspace as a backup plan,... (read more)

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Reminder: Oslo Lesswrong meetup...

Meetup: Oslo LessWrong meetup planning thread.

Meetup : Oslo LessWrong Meetup

Meetup : Oslo Meetup at Bitraf.

FourFire

FourFire

Meetup : Oslo Lesswrong meetup, September

Meetup : Oslo Meetup at Bitraf.

Meetup : Oslo Meetup at Bitraf.

Reminder: Oslo Lesswrong meetup...

Meetup : Oslo LessWrong Meetup

Meetup: Oslo LessWrong meetup planning thread.

FourFire

Reminder: Oslo Lesswrong meetup...

Meetup: Oslo LessWrong meetup planning thread.

Meetup : Oslo LessWrong Meetup

Meetup : Oslo Meetup at Bitraf.

FourFire

FourFire

Meetup : Oslo Lesswrong meetup, September

Meetup : Oslo Meetup at Bitraf.

Meetup : Oslo Meetup at Bitraf.

Reminder: Oslo Lesswrong meetup...

Meetup : Oslo LessWrong Meetup

Meetup: Oslo LessWrong meetup planning thread.

Discussion article for the meetup : Oslo Lesswrong meetup, September

Discussion article for the meetup : Oslo Lesswrong meetup, September

Discussion article for the meetup : Oslo Meetup at Bitraf.

Discussion article for the meetup : Oslo Meetup at Bitraf.

Discussion article for the meetup : Oslo Meetup at Bitraf.

Discussion article for the meetup : Oslo Meetup at Bitraf.

Discussion article for the meetup : Oslo LessWrong Meetup

Discussion article for the meetup : Oslo LessWrong Meetup