Yeah, my idea is just based on physical proximity. There's no way systemic concentrations would be enough, plus the E. Coli in the gut produce way more formate in total given the much larger surface area... yet I can't ignore that my mouth is directly below my eyes. I'm totally willing to bet on it, though I don't know how you'd judge something like this. Formate optic neuropathy doesn't necessarily have specific signs, though in the two case reports it does follow a progressive course and then suddenly get much worse. Is it just based on whether I end up becoming one of the mysterious idiopathic optic neuropathy cases AND test positive for Lumina if they ever come out with their testing kit thing?

Either way please do explain your reasoning on this, I'm looking for some reason to imagine I'm not totally done for but I haven't been able to come up with anything myself.

Elaborate. I can't find any information on substance diffusion from the oral mucosa to cross reference with the concentration of formate that could be expected from 10^??? bacteria living in the crevices between your teeth and gums. It would make me feel a lot better to be wrong, since the differential diagnosis is significantly less grim with slow formate poisoning removed. I'd throw down that hundred bucks just for the reassurance, even suffering as I am with medical bills. From this.

And the bullet? I choose a BB, to shoot just your eye out. It's only fair :^)

(I wouldn't actually it's just a bit of dark humor for you)

I can confirm I'm no troll, my vision really has gone to crap suspiciously soon after the moment I took Lumina. I fully admit I could just be imagining the whole thing since no doctor can find anything physically wrong with my eyes or optic nerves and my acuity is still okay AND I can still pass the Ishihara plates but the symptoms are just too perfect- It's dark all the time and I seriously cannot see red normally anymore, everything red appears as some weird faded shimmery orange-pink that contains more yellow than should be possible given the amount of red and the luminance (look up the opponent process theory.)

I'm just very doxable because I have a globally unique IRL name. Even saying that is probably revealing too much. I use the garloid64 alias for everything I don't necessarily want instantly traced back to myself, in this case because I am afraid of getting sued or something. I write well because, I don't know, I'm smart or something? I have "big wordcel energy" I guess. I am certainly not any existing well known rationalist blogger, but I appreciate the compliment. I've been thinking about opening a blog for a while now but I wasn't sure what to write about... and well, given what I'm dealing with now my anxiety spurred me to action. 

Basically what I'd like to see is if literally anyone has experienced any kind of vision changes at all since using this stuff, even subtlely, especially that elite few who got it a year ago. I'm thinking about contacting the company but... what exactly am I hoping to get out of that? Will they help me test my own mouth to determine whether it's even in the realm of possibility? Me, a complete nobody who came out of nowhere with a well written hit piece full of plausible but hopefully completely wrong conjecture about the most horrifying thing that could happen? I just dunno.