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gw23d10

I spoke with some people last fall who were planning to do this, perhaps it's the same people. I think the idea (at least, as stated) was to commercialize regulatory software to fund some alignment work. At the time, they were going by Nomos AI, and it looks like they've since renamed to Norm AI.

gw4mo1512

+ the obvious fact that it might matter to the kid that they're going to die

(edit: fwiw I broadly think people who want to have kids should have kids)

gw6mo20

Hmm, I have exactly one idea. Are you pressing shift+enter to new line? For me, if I do shift+enter

>! I don't get a spoiler

But if I hit regular enter then type >!, the spoiler tag pops up as I'm typing (don't need to wait to submit the question for it to appear)

gw6mo20

Are you thinking of

Until Dawn?

(also it seems like I can get a spoiler tag to work in comments by starting a line with >! but not by putting text into :::spoiler [text] :::)

gw6mo30

Interesting, thanks for the detailed responses here and above!

gw6mo30

Here's a handwavy attempt from another angle:

Suppose you have a container of gas and you can somehow run time at 2x speed in that container. It would be obvious that from an external observer's point of view (where time is running at 1x speed) that sound would appear to travel 2x as fast from one end of the container to the other. But to the external observer, running time at 2x speed is indistinguishable from doubling the velocity of each gas molecule at 1x speed. So increasing the velocity of molecules (and therefore the temperature) should cause sound to travel faster.

(Also, for more questions like this, see this post on Thinking Physics)

gw6mo10

If I make the room bigger or smaller while holding T and P constant, v(sound) does not change. If it did, it would be very obvious in daily life.

This feels a bit too handwavy to me, I could say the same thing about temperature: if the speed of sound were affected by making a room hotter or colder, it would be very obvious in daily life, therefore the speed of sound doesn't depend on temperature. But it isn't obvious in daily life that the speed of sound changes based on temperature either.

So now let's increase T. It doesn't matter what effect this has on P and V and n, as seen in the above. So what's left? Increasing T linearly increases the average kinetic energy of the gas molecules (PV and NkT both have units of energy, this is why), and velocity increases as the sqrt of kinetic energy. So if gas molecule velocity is what determines v(sound), then it has to be that v(sound) increases as sqrt(T).

I think this also falls short of justifying that v(sound) increases as T increases.  Why does it have to be that v(sound) increases with gas molecule velocity and not decreases instead? Why is it the case that gas molecule velocity determines v(sound) at all?

gw7mo30

Worth noting that the scam attempt failed. We keep hearing ‘I almost fell for it’ and keep not hearing from anyone who actually lost money.

Here's a story where someone lost quite a lot of money through an AI-powered scam:

https://www.reuters.com/technology/deepfake-scam-china-fans-worries-over-ai-driven-fraud-2023-05-22/

gw9mo30

We can question things, how it went this way or why we are all here with this problem now - but it does not in add anything IMHO.

I think it adds something.  It's a bit strongly worded, but another way to see this is "could we have done any better, and if so, why?" Asking how we could have done better in the past lets us see ways to do better in the future.

gw9mo103

This post comes to mind as relevant: Concentration of Force

The effectiveness of force application often depends on its concentration—on whether you can amass locally superior force at the actual decisive moment.

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