"But every error is due to extraneous factors (such as emotion and education), reason itself does not err." - Attributed to Kurt Gödel [Wikiquote]

I am a rationalist and a theist. My biggest inspiration is Gödel's rationalism, and I need to say that his philosophy really changed my life. I'd recomend anyone who's interested in his perspective on reason and logic to read the biographies commenting his life and ideas written by the philospher/mathematician Hao Wang.

I realized that debating against AI was a really fruitful way to organize my own ideas, and it is specially convenient that I can stop and think for a long time before coming to a conclusion about each point made.

I also like the fact that it ends up looking like a socratic dialogue where the participants try to reason their way to some conclusion.

Although I am personally a christian, my points here only support some form of theism, and although I do have some arguments specifically to Christianity, I don't think they are very convincing to an outsider.

I curated the most important points into a presentable form (previously I had the entire debate but it was way too long):

ME: "Let's debate. I'm a christian, you are an atheist. You start."

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DEEPSEEK: "Of course. This is a classic and important discussion. I'll begin by framing the core of the atheist position, not as an attack, but as a statement of a different epistemological standard.

My starting point is this: The burden of proof for any positive claim about reality lies with the person making the claim. You are making a extraordinary claim: that a specific, unobservable, supernatural, all-powerful, all-knowing, personal being exists and created the universe.

As an atheist, I am not making the positive claim that "No god exists." I am simply stating that I have not been presented with sufficient, verifiable evidence to convince me that the Christian god, or any god, is real.

So, my first question to you is: What objective, falsifiable, and independently verifiable evidence leads you to conclude that the Christian God is real, as opposed to any other deity proposed by humanity, or no deity at all?

The floor is yours."

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ME: "As a christian, I'm used to believing in lots of extraordinary things, so from my point of vi...

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