Really liked this. Thanks for the write up.

Your description is beautiful in the sense that you use the word :) thank you for sharing

"pain and pain receptor spread across and through animal bodies basically is like a currency for the evolutionary perspective... so species can pay for survival with more pain(receptors)"

I found this interesting to mull on, an interesting property of pleasure and pain is acting as a universal measure of value, making trade-offs easier

I love "divine carrot" as a term! I think a lot about what it would mean to totally replace stick as motivation, like societies getting off of "burning coal indoors for warmth" maybe humans can "get off burning suffering for motivation"

Ha, maybe! Seems like while we're here though we might as well be working out way down the list of "ideas that might change everything". People report trying a lot of things and then hitting on something that works (like https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/fFY2HeC9i2Tx8FEnK/my-resentful-story-of-becoming-a-medical-miracle)

Ha, thank you! It slipped my mind, I've just added it :)

Thank you for writing this, I found it really valuable!

Noted, thank you for the feedback

Amazing work, this is really important meta problem

From memory the first part was something Richard Bartlett tweeted, the second was my addendum 😄.

Glad you liked them 😊