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Lies Told To Children

I say this because I think it relates to / could be within your same world:

One of my favorite current story ideas is to write a story where there's a girl who lives in a world where each society is running an experiment about the best way to live life. In school, she finds out that while most societies are aware of the experiment that's being run, her society is one of the few where the experiment is kept secret from the people in it.

As she grows up, she realizes how poor her society is, and how little technology they have. It improves very quickly over the years, but when she was younger they didn't even have washing machines or dishwashers.

So, she starts digging to try to figure out why it is that all their technology was so bad, and why her society started off so poor, and begins advocating for the idea that whatever experiment is being run, it should be shut down, because their quality of life is so much lesser than other societies.

Eventually, the movement she starts begins gaining momentum, and the entire society begins to revolt against being in the experiment. When she's finally able to bring her case to the main governing decision body (the council), she finds out what the experiment was:

Despite their wealth, many of the people in the other societies are depressed and feel like they have very little to live for. Is it better to live wealthy and securely without worries, or to struggle but have a purpose of overcoming those challenges?

The later chapters cover the (now older) woman fighting with her emotions. She is proud that she was able to fight for her society to raise its standards, and she feels like she's lived a good life. However, not having the wealth at first was really tough, and she's worried the council will make more societies like hers and subject more people to those tribulations she experienced when she was younger. But, because she and others in her society ended up greatly enjoying their lives despite (and because of, as the experiment showed) the hardships, the experiment was considered a success. If she likes her life overall, should she really oppose the creation of more societies like hers?

On infinite ethics

I have not read through this in its entirety, but it strikes me that an article I wrote about how the mathematical definition of infinity doesn't match human intuitions might be useful for people to read who are also interested in this material. I'm also fairly new here, so if cross posting this isn't okay, please let me know.

Embedded Interactive Predictions on LessWrong

Is it possible to hide the values of other predictors? I'm worried that seeing the values that others predict might influence future predictions in a way that's not helpful for feedback or accurate group predictions. (Especially since names are shown and humans tend to respect others' opinions.)


Yeah, that sounds right! I think this video supports that idea as well:


For example, when asked to think about something I would like more deeper, masterful knowledge about, I replied "artificial neural networks".

The closest thing I could think to potentially experiencing them and interacting is either 1. Through interactive demos or 2. Through a suit like this. I'm unsure if that is what is meant by interaction, though it does seem closer.

Direct Observation

This is my first comment on this site, so if I'm missing particular norms, please let me know.

I understand why this was done, but it is amusing to me that in order to describe what "contact with the territory" looks like, you must use map-like terms such as "arm", "finger", and "hand".

I was going to recommend that you could qualify all of these terms, but I realized that this would likely not be needed for most readers; hopefully most people will understand, after having reading the previous essays, that by "hand", you're taking advantage of our preconceptions and built-in maps in order to describe your thought.

(I also realize that this has been done elsewhere out of necessity in the essays as well - it just particularly stood out to me in this one section.)