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1M. Y. Zuo's Shortform
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High-level actions don’t screen off intent
M. Y. Zuo7d10

The more interesting question is why would anyone ever assume that to be the case, in the first place? 

Unless they’ve literally never encountered a deceptive person in their life, it just seems implausible to not notice this.

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Banning Said Achmiz (and broader thoughts on moderation)
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Banning Said Achmiz (and broader thoughts on moderation)
M. Y. Zuo20d10

This doesn’t make sense as a reply…

How is your opinion on perceived emotional expressiveness even relevant to the prior comment ?

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Banning Said Achmiz (and broader thoughts on moderation)
[+]M. Y. Zuo22d-8-4
Musings from a Lawyer turned AI Safety researcher (ShortForm)
M. Y. Zuo23d21

Huh that is a really good point. There are way too many people with US/UK backgrounds to easily differentiate between the expert pretenders and the really substantial experts. It’s even getting harder to do so on LW for many topics as karma becomes less and less meaningful.

And I can’t imagine the secretary general’s office will have that much time to scrutinize each proposed candidate, so it might even be a positive thing overall.

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Banning Said Achmiz (and broader thoughts on moderation)
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Banning Said Achmiz (and broader thoughts on moderation)
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Doing A Thing Puts You in The Top 10% (And That Sucks)
M. Y. Zuo1mo10

This seems like an odd concern… if you take a walk around Stanford campus on a typical weekday you’ll almost certainly pass a few people much smarter than you likely were, or ever will ever be, at the same age, in every possible way I can think of. And that applies to nearly everyone on LW, yes even Yudowsky.

And clearly there’s no mass demotivation as plenty of smart people, but not literal super genius smart, continue walking around Stanford? (which after all must make up the bulk of the student population)

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The Problem
M. Y. Zuo1mo-1-3

Honestly, this kind of response doesn’t make sense and is likely to produce the opposite effect, so I’ll try to put it as straightforwardly as possible. 

Maybe it works in a perfect ideal world where everyone who touched the text is 100% trustworthy, 100% of the time.

But in the real world where clearly that’s not the case… and everyone shown in the author list has had ulterior motives at least once in their past, there’s simply no way for a passing reader to be sure there weren’t also ulterior motives in this instance. 

Of course they can’t prove a negative either… but that’s the inherent nature of making claims without having completely solid proof.

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Yes, Rationalism is a Cult
M. Y. Zuo1mo10

Considering all groups to at least have an incipient potential of cult formation seems sensible?

It might not literally be a point of “cultishness” on a scale out of 10, but on a scale out of 100 that seems more sensible. It is true after all the risk can never be reduced to perfectly zero as long as the group exists. 

I can’t think of any exceptions either…

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-3How does someone prove that their general intelligence is above average?
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11What's the evidence that LLMs will scale up efficiently beyond GPT4? i.e. couldn't GPT5, etc., be very inefficient?
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19When building an organization, there are lots of ways to prevent financial corruption of personnel. But what are the ways to prevent corruption via social status, political power, etc.?
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6Is there a widely accepted metric for 'genuineness' in interpersonal communication?
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1Credible, costly, pseudonymity
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4Practical ways to actualize our beliefs into concrete bets over a longer time horizon?
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12Analysis of GPT-4 competence in assessing complex legal language: Example of Bill C-11 of the Canadian Parliament. - Part 1
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-5Is ChatGPT (or other LLMs) more 'sentient'/'conscious/etc. then a baby without a brain?
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31Google announces 'Bard' powered by LaMDA
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8Peter Thiel's speech at Oxford Debating Union on technological stagnation, Nuclear weapons, COVID, Environment, Alignment, 'anti-anti anti-anti-classical liberalism', Bostrom, LW, etc.
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