I think I can!
When I write, I am constantly balancing brevity (and aesthetics generally) with clarity. Unfortunately, I sometimes gravely fail at achieving the latter without me noticing. Your above comment immediately informs me of this mistake.
Thank you for this! Your companion piece instantly solved a problem I was having with my diet spreadsheet!
Yes, I basically agree: My above comment is only an argument against the most popular halfer model.
However, in the interest of sparing reader's time I have to mention that your model doesn't have a probability for 'today is Monday' nor for 'today is Tuesday'. If they want to see your reasoning for this choice, they should start with the post you linked second instead of the post you linked first.
I had to use keras backend's switch function for the automatic differentiation to work, but basically yes.
I enjoyed the exercise, thanks!
My solution for the common turtles was setting up the digital cradle such that the mind forged inside was compelled to serve my interests (I wrote a custom loss function for the NN). I used 0.5*segments+x for the vampire one (where I used the x which had the best average gp result for the example vampire population). Annoyingly, I don't remember what I changed between my previous and my current solution, but the previous one was much better 🥲
Looking forward to the next challenge!
Random Musing on Autoregressive Transformers resulting from Taelin's A::B Challenge
Let's model an autoregressive transformer as a Boolean circuit or, for simpler presentation, a n-ary circuit with m inputs and 1 output.
Model the entire system the following way: Given some particular m length starting input:
It's easy to see that, strictly speaking, this system is not very powerful computationally: we have finite number of possible tokens (n) and finite length context window (m), so we only have finite possible states (n*m), therefore our model is as powerful as a finite state machine (it's pretty much equivalent in its behaviour to a regular grammar only containing A → aB rules)
However, real life computers also have finite memory yet we never let that bother us!
How should we manually design our circuit to enable us to solve the most types of problems with an appropriate selection of the initial input?
I think one very straightforward solution is to simply emulate a computer with random access memory the following way:
This can be done efficiently with relatively few cicuit nodes and relatively low depth, but I don't want to write down the construction.
It's interesting to see that actual large autoregressive transformers on human language seem to be fitting this model more and more closely:
No she does not. And it's easy to see if you actually try to formally specify what is meant here by "today" and what is meant by "today" in regular scenarios. Consider me calling your bluff about being ready to translate to first order logic at any moment.
I said that I can translate the math of probability spaces to first order logic, and I explicitly said that our conversation can NOT be translated to first order logic as proof that it is not about math, rather, it's about philosophy. Please, reread that part of my previous comment.
And frankly, it baffles me that you think that you need to explain that it's possible to talk about math using natural language, to a person who has been doing it for multiple posts in a row.
That is not what I explained and I suggest you reread that part. Here it is again:
This whole conversation isn't about math. It is about philosophy. Math is proving theorems in various formal systems. If you are a layman, I imagine you might find it confusing that you can encounter mathematicians who seem to have conversations about math in common English. I can assure you that every mathematician in that conversation is able to translate their comments into the simple language of the given formal system they are working in, they are just simply so much of an expert that they can transmit and receive the given information more efficiently by speaking on a higher level of abstraction.
It is not possible to translate the conversation that we're having to a simple formal system as it's about how we should/can model some aspect of reality (which is famously dirty and complicated) with some specific mathematical object.
The structure of my argument here is the following:
The more I post about anthropics the clearer it becomes that I should've started with posting about probability theory 101. My naive hopes that average LessWrong reader is well familiar with the basics and just confused about more complicated cases are crushed beyond salvation.
Ah yes, clearly, the problem is that I don't understand basic probability theory. (I'm a bit sad that this conversation happened to take place with my pseudonymous account.) In my previous comment, I explicitily prepared to preempt your confusion about seeing the English word 'experiment' with my paragraph (the part of it that you, for some reason, did not quote), and specifically linking a wiki which only contains the mathematical part of 'probability', and not philosophical interpretations that are paired with it commonly, but alas, it didn't matter.
>In particular, Beauty, when awoken, has a certain credence in the statement "Today is Monday."
No she does not. And it's easy to see if you actually try to formally specify what is meant here by "today" and what is meant by "today" in regular scenarios. Consider me calling your bluff about being ready to translate to first order logic at any moment.
If you are not ready to accept that people have various levels of belief in the statement "Today is Monday" at all times, then I don't think this conversation can go anywhere, to be honest. This is an extremely basic fact about reality.
EDIT: gears, in the first part you selected i''m answering an accusation of bluffing in a matter-of-fact way, how is that too combative? Also, fell free to chime in at any point it is an open forum after all..
Now, that's not how math works. If you come up with some new concept, be so kind to prove that they are coherent mathematical entities and what are their properties.
This whole conversation isn't about math. It is about philosophy. Math is proving theorems in various formal systems. If you are a layman, I imagine you might find it confusing that you can encounter mathematicians who seem to have conversations about math in common English. I can assure you that every mathematician in that conversation is able to translate their comments into the simple language of the given formal system they are working in, they are just simply so much of an expert that they can transmit and receive the given information more efficiently by speaking on a higher level of abstraction.
It is not possible to translate the conversation that we're having to a simple formal system as it's about how we should/can model some aspect of reality (which is famously dirty and complicated) with some specific mathematical object.
To be more concrete: I want to show you that we can model (and later that we should indeed) a person's beliefs at some given point in time with probability spaces.
This is inherently a philosophical and not a mathematical problem and I don't see how you don't understand this concept and would appreciate if you could elaborate on this point as much as possible.
You keep insisting that
By definition of a sample space it can be constructed only from elementary outcomes which has to be mutually exclusive. Tails&Monday and Tails&Tuesday are not mutually exclusive - they happen to the same person in the same iteration of probability experiment during the same outcome of the coin toss. "Centredness" framework attempts to treat them as elementary outcomes, regardless. Therefore, it contradicts the definition of a sample space.
If we are being maximally precise, then NO: the math of probability spaces prescribes a few formal statements which (this is very important), in some cases, can be used to model experiments and events happening or not happening in reality, but the mathematical objects itself have no concept of 'experiment' or 'time' or anything like those. I won't copy it here, but you can look these up on the net yourself, if you want: here is one such source. Don't be confused by the wiki sometimes using English words, rest assured, any mathematician could translate it to any sufficiently expressive, simple formal system using variable names like a1,x3564789, etc.. (If you really think it would help you and you don't believe what I'm saying otherwise, I can translate it to first order logic for you)
Now that we hopefully cleared up that we are not arguing about math, it's time for more interesting parts:
Can a probability space model a person's beliefs at a certain point in time?
Yes, it can!
First, I would like to show you that your solution does NOT model a person's belief at a certain time:
Before I go further, I think I will ask you whether everything is clear and whether you agree with everything I wrote so far.
That is surprising. We often used the word in high school ~10 years ago and I'm not even a native speaker. Example