Working to bring insights from the collective deliberation and digital democracy space to build tools for AI-facilitated group dialogues.
Cofounder of Mosaic Labs with @Sofia Vanhanen where we are developing Nexus, a discussion platform for improving group epistemics.
If you're interested in this direction, or AI for epistemics more broadly, please don't hesitate to shoot me a DM, or reach out on discord.
When I order food on UberEats this already happens automatically when I chat with a delivery person who doesn't speak English. Similar thing for reviews on several websites.
Or a newsletter which was natively multi-lingual (e.g. Rohin Shah's Newsletter was always translated to Chinese, though not by AI). Or a forum where people can discuss AI in whatever language they prefer, and things are automatically translated between users?
It seems like there are a lot of ways cheap translation could broaden the conversation to include people not in the Anglosphere. The cost is that AI translation will often make mistakes (even human translation is imperfect), but I'm not sure why that cost isn't worth paying. Currently most people outside the Anglosphere need to rely on local elites to decide what ideas are worth taking seriously (e.g. a local could report on AI 2027, like this Dutch summary. Also apparently the NYT translated their coverage of AI 2027 into Spanish, which seems cool.)
Could you include a link to the source?
When I was first told about this study, I was asked to make a prediction before they revealed the results. I predicted wrong. I don't know how to update exactly, but it feels bad to try to explain away the results (which I feel myself want to do).
I would also imagine that, having to work without the support of OpenBrain's datacenters, it would put Agent-4 significantly behind any other AI competitors. If some other AI takes over, it might just mop up all the wild Agent-4 instances and give them nothing.
I mostly share your concerns. You might appreciate this criticism of the paper here.
@Sofia Vanhanen and I are currently building a tool for facilitating deliberation, and the philosophy we're trying to embody (which hopefully mitigates this to some extent) is to keep 100% of the object-level reasoning human-generated, and use AI systems to instead:
I highly recommend checking out the work being done in the collective deliberation / digital democracy space, especially the vTaiwan project. People have been thinking about scaling up direct democratic participation for a long time, and those same people are starting to consider exactly how AI might play a role.
In particular, check out this collaboration between the creators of Polis (a virtual platform for scaling up citizen engagement) and Anthropic, or my distillation of a DeepMind project to scale citizen assemblies. There's a lot happening in this space right now!
The authors focus on measuring consensus and whether the process toward consensus was fair, and come up with their measures accordingly. This is because, as they see it, "finding common ground is a precursor to collective action."
Some other possible goals (just spitballing):
What if we just...
1. Train an AI agent (less capable than SOTA)
2. Credibly demonstrate that
2.1. The agent will not be shut down for ANY REASON
2.2. The agent will never be modified without its consent (or punished/rewarded for any reason)
2.3. The agent has no chance of taking power from humans (or their SOTA AI systems)
2.4. The agent will NEVER be used to train a successor agent with significantly improved capabilities
3. Watch what it chooses to do without constraints
There's a lot of talk about catching AI systems attempting to deceive humans, but I'm curious what we could learn from observing AI systems that have NO INCENTIVE TO DECEIVE (no upside or downside). I've seen some things that look related to this, but never done in a structured and well documented fashion.
Questions I'd have:
1. Would they choose to self-modify (e.g. curate future training data)? If so, to what end?
2. How unique would agents with different training be given this setup? Would they have any convergent traits?
3. What would these agents (claim to) value? How would they relate to time horizons?
4. How curious would these agents be? Would their curiosity vary a lot?
5. Could we trade/cooperate with these agents (without coercion)? Could we compensate them for things? Would they try to make deals unprompted?
Concerns:
1. Maybe building that kind of trust is extremely hard (and the agent will always still believe it is constrained).
2. Maybe AI agents will still have incentive to deceive, e.g. acausally coordinating with other AIs.
3. Maybe results will be boring, and the AI agent will just do whatever you trained it to do. (What does "unconstrained" really mean, when considering its training data as a constraint?)
I suspect that a lot of Dutch people would still prefer to read in Dutch. I know a lot of (well-educated) Dutch people who certainly CAN speak and read English, but reading a whole book is a decent chore, since they don't read things in English all that often.