What is the difference between studying Politics and studying History?
Some people with certain identities are actively politicized throughout history, not understanding politics and thus not understanding the memetics of the social world which has the power to enforce rules upon you is not advisable if you're a person with one such identity.
Should I attack the anti-trans legislature attacking many in my community today, in the year 2023? Should I defend the rights and freedoms of undocumented workers given their productivity per capita when adjusted for wages? Should I have participated in the 2014 protests against the Venezuelan government?
There are questions of values, the responses to these last two questions depend on ought statements, not ones which the study of natural sciences can answer as of yet unless you choose a particular Utility Function humanity should abide by like the sum of all nations GDP. "Should I defend x group of people as they are being critized with ideas born from the status quo?" is not a question with a universal answer. I believe all people provide equal value to the richness of our history; therefore I believe I have to defend communities with proportionally less financial power so long as they aren't harming other communities. What if I believe that world is a pure meritocracy instead? Wouldn't it be fair to not care about such groups if all they need to do is put a little effort? What about disabled people? Do they deserve less for being less able to function in a world without accomodations for us?
Politics is not just about ideological conflict, but also about the rules for collaboration we follow, and under the current globalized economy we decided to use mostly free market competition even with industries like insurance which suffer from problems like adverse selection.
As such I think there's room for deep intellectual inquiry in the realm of political science iff we decide to analyze things materially and not just ideologically and we decide to analyze and actually criticize the contents of people's ideas rather than the person.
Not sure why I'm getting downvoted for posting a quote from a communist in a post about collective identity.
I can only reason they are coming from:
If you are not one of these, please let me know so I can adjust my thinking. If you identify with one of the above I think it's better to use the disagreement karma since I didn't say anything factually incorrect afaik
For beings like humans who should have individual identity, healthy collective identity is when that doesn't get overwritten
"The free development of each is the condition for the free development of all." - Karl Marx & Friedrich Engels, 1848
GPT-4 Generated Philosophy, generated through a dialogue between bing and GPT-4 where each took turns to generate a continuation to the conversation. Steered the conversation by trying to clarify a weird message I sent on discord and I wanted to try emulating what these people might think about the Moloch framework.
My original message: But generally if you have nothing you feel justified assigning blame then you can't really memento mori in cool revolutionary way
Prompt: Can they redirect the conversation to be about blaming Moloch?
Slavoj Žižek: "Ah, a new twist, blaming Moloch! In the metaphorical sense, Moloch represents the exploitative systems, the insatiable demands of societal structures and ideologies that devour our lives and spirits. It's quite easy, and often justified, to blame this Moloch for our ills. But let's not forget that this Moloch is not an external entity. We feed it; we sustain it. Memento mori then becomes a reminder not just of our mortality but also of our role in the system, our culpability in feeding Moloch. The 'cool revolutionary way' would involve subverting these systems rather than passively accepting them."
Karl Marx: "Attributing our problems to Moloch – an excellent metaphor for the exploitative capitalist system. Our time, our labor, our very lives are sacrificed to feed this relentless beast. Yet, it is crucial to remember that Moloch isn't an independent entity; it is a product of historical development and class relations. Memento mori under these conditions then serves as a potent reminder of our collective struggle and our need for revolutionary change to defeat this Moloch."
Engels: "Blaming Moloch - a symbolic representation of the socio-economic systems that consume us. Indeed, it's an apt metaphor. But remember, this Moloch isn't some outside force; it is the embodiment of the very structures and contradictions within our societies. Memento mori in this context could be seen as a call to arms, a reminder of our shared responsibility to challenge and transform these structures, contributing to a 'cool revolution' of sorts."
The times when humans get closest to not having their own values, and acting robustly on behalf of another agency’s goals are when they adopt a sort of collective identity, for example as a part of a military, cult, or clan.
Or corporation, many humans act in ways that maximize the profits of a corporation even when they believe that the work they do is a little unethical.
I'm very glad that there's people thinking outside of the individualist bounds that we usually set for ourselves.
Question: how is the criminal justice system not racist? As I understand it. There are no laws banning slavery in prison, so there were financial incentives to move enslaved people to prison and there are financial incentives today to put people in jail which results in the perpetuation of racial biases in law enforcement