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A review of Principia Qualia
PaddyC4d10

https://enchroma.com/blogs/beyond-color/how-color-blind-see


Does the fact this level of understanding of colour blindness is known and that for example the black and white type of colour blindness is observable and verifiable and contains no colours other than black and white , does this prove subjective perception is false or is there still an intrinsic isness that is unique to the individual ?

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Seeing Red: Dissolving Mary's Room and Qualia
PaddyC5d10

https://enchroma.com/blogs/beyond-color/how-color-blind-see


Does the fact this level of understanding of colour blindness is known and that for example the black and white type of colour blindness is observable and verifiable and contains no colours other than black and white , does this prove subjective perception is false or is there still an intrinsic isness that is unique to the individual ?

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Seeing Red: Dissolving Mary's Room and Qualia
PaddyC1mo00

This notion of a universe not based on subjective perception raises questions about is the universe consciousness based which I think the answer would have to be no unless we are all made of the same mind stuff that gives us common yet mind generated perception.

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A review of Principia Qualia
PaddyC1mo00

This notion of a universe not based on subjective perception raises questions about is the universe consciousness based which I think the answer would have to be no unless we are all made of the same mind stuff that gives us common yet mind generated perception.

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A review of Principia Qualia
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Seeing Red: Dissolving Mary's Room and Qualia
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Seeing Red: Dissolving Mary's Room and Qualia
PaddyC8mo10

Interesting article I found about measuring subjective perception


https://wires.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/wcs.1697

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Seeing Red: Dissolving Mary's Room and Qualia
PaddyC8mo10

The word timbre seems to make sense when it comes to the subjective perception of sound and when I try to focus on the timbre of the sound I am hearing I have thoughts of a universal resonent frequency but then I think that maybe that resonant frequency is unique to me hence qualia.

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Seeing Red: Dissolving Mary's Room and Qualia
PaddyC8mo2-1

It’s easy to imagine visual perception in relation to qualia ie how do I know that the blue I see looks the same to you beyond identifying it eg the sky is blue. But I think it’s harder to imagine qualia in relation to sound, that is how could sound have a subjective essence that is possibly unique to each individual. I think you either hear something or you don’t.

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A review of Principia Qualia
PaddyC9mo00

As far as quantifying consciousness, I want to ask , if a tree falls in the woods and no one is there to hear it does it make a sound ? Does the tree hear itself falling or at least feel itself falling ? If consciousness is subjective , then how can it measure itself ? Possibly only in relation to the other ? Eg if my mind is interpreting electromagnetic waves to subjectively produce the colour red , then that redness for me is my experience of those electromagnetic waves and knowing the others experience of red is impossible ? Because ?? I also liked the conjecture in the article that a brain may contain more than one consciousness which reminds me of the question , what if everything was conscious ? So that when you feel pleasure it’s not your brain creating that sensation instead it’s eg your tastebuds enjoying a tasty sandwich and relaying that information to the brain so “you” , wherever and whatever you are canbe aware of it.

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