Yes! I think this is some insightful texture on why women like it organic - it lets them flow through many micro interactions of turn on / turn off that (with skill) make it easy to go deeper / disengage based on her signals.
Most people don’t like saying no to someone where there are potential social consequences. And women, like VCs, have to say no a lot. So ofc they want it to be a smooth and low-risk process, and a man’s ability to offer that is (due to the attunement, self-control, etc) a meaningful demonstration of his capacity as a lover/boyfriend/etc.
It damages the illusion that this is happening to her independent of what she wants
I think this is a subtle but important mistake. You’ve given evidence that women wish seduction to proceed organically without explicit check ins. And then concluded here (and similar phrasing some other placed) that a typical woman wants the seduction to happen to her regardless of what she wants.
But if she isn’t into the guy, she’ll view the seduction attempt as “creepy”. Just because she wants it organic doesn’t mean her preferences aren’t involved - they are profoundly i...
In some worlds / topics / countries this would be a really good point. But we have 50 years of Nobel Prize winning economics ("public choice") and empirical evidence showing that large democracies are not at all "machines for passing good policies". So in the US, the benefits of a policy proposal are, unfortunately, almost irrelevant. We have essentially infinite lists of suggestions for better policies; adding more does basically nothing. The entirety of the problem is the construction of the law-making machine; and so to me, your suggestion in that spher...
I disagree that what is happening is that she “never consents to anything that’s going on“. There are constant micro-consents in a wanted flirtation - whether it’s the tone of her laughter, her body language, her face leaning in slightly, whatever.
I’ve always been comfortable flirting in that way, I enjoy it as an art form, and every time you describe it with these terms I wince. Not saying out loud “Yes keep flirting with me” != “never consenting”. Not in the slightest!