Over the last few years, I’ve had a lot of conversations with people in the rationalist and adjacent communities about psychedelic use, mainly focused on potential benefits, potential risks, and good and bad outcomes they’ve seen in others from using psychedelics. I often wished I had more hard data about...
Your kids are built from all of you and all of your partner - If you love all of that, then you love all of them... your children are roughly a mosaic of you and the person you picked to make them with.
And that means something else too: If you don’t love parts of yourself or your partner, then your children will see that too. If you get angry at yourself for always being late or angry at your partner for always making a mess, then your kids will see you won’t love those parts of them either.
I don't have kids but I'm not buying this, this sounds very fake to me.
Eh? I think love and friendship are just complicated concepts that involve states of mind and behavior, and people disagree about what should be part of those clusters or not (though I appreciate the concreteness of this proposal)
Being an EA makes this too complicated for me, can't help thinking about people's expected impact on the world. There are people I actively dislike who I would easily take a 10% chance of death for, and people who I believe I love but think are deeply harming the world. And even people who I think it would be actively good for the world if they died, and maybe would be worth from an expected value perspective giving up my life except for the fact that murder seems extremely bad, even complicated, thought experiment murder where you're just walking into a place.
I also think intellectual respect is not a binary trait with respect to whether you have it for an individual or not. I think that you can (and often should) have intellectual respect for an individual on some topics but not others. E.g. I merit no intellectual respect on any topic related to sports. I think a lot of rationality is about trying to deserve intellectual respect on increasingly meta/abstract levels (e.g. while I don't think I merit any intellectual respect on any topic related to sports, I would hope that I would merit some intellectual respect if I were to try to confer about how to approach learning about sports, because I try to be thoughtful about how to learn new topics in an efficient, unbiased, and truth-seeking way). But I think that even for the people who are most worthy of intellectual respect writ broad, there's quite a bit of unevenness.
My guess is that what Richard is trying to gesture at, and what I would claim you should maybe do, is separate the concept of moral patienthood and moral agency to a greater extent. Like with a dog, you might love and cherish a child without respecting their policies or their moral reasoning at the level that they're at. And you might care a lot about their happiness, protecting them from harm, empathizing with their sorrows, meeting their preferences, making them feel comfortable, etc.
Obviously you shouldn't literally treat an adult exactly the same way you would treat a dog or a child, but I think that there might be a path to... (read more)
Generalizing just a little bit beyond rape fantasies: AFAICT, being verbally asked for consent is super-duper a turn off for most women. Same with having to initiate sex;
Neither of these links contain statistics about what fraction of women like being verbally asked for consent or dislike having to initiate sex. They're literally just one woman talking about her experience. I don't think this is very good evidence for your claim which is pretty central to your post.
I don't have a strong guess about what fraction of women strongly dislike being verbally asked for sex (especially if it's done reasonably skillfully and non-robotically); just to add another anecdote since we're apparently trading anecdotes around, I am a woman who would strongly dislike not being asked verbally before having sex with someone for the first time.
I would guess that more than half dislike having to initiate sex, based on vibes, but I'm pretty uncertain what fraction would say this is the case
So let’s start with some statistics from Lehmiller[1]: roughly two thirds of women and half of men have some fantasy of being raped.
Could you include more details about these statistics? "X% of people have ever had some fantasy." is extremely different from "the same X% of people have that fantasy most times when they masturbate" or whatever the case might be. I also care about how careful they were to distinguish between "x% of people have imagined rape occurring vividly" vs. "the same x% of people have actually fantasized about it as a pleasurable, sexually arousing experience."
It includes a much higher percent of people having rape fantasies than other statistics I've seen (e.g. here) (including, if you worded this correctly, half of men having fantasies about being raped, which would actually surprise me even more than the two-thirds of women statistic)
seems probably legally risky.
"cowardly" because my strong guess is that their actions were driven by fear of social censure rather than calculated attempts to minimize losses. If they were trying to minimize losses to their non-selfish goals of ousting Sam A, who I think they believed to be a bad and dangerous actor, that would have been better served by coming clean about why they did what they did.
I agree, but I think both occurred. they had a long-term secret plan and tried to execute it (a scheme), and then when it went poorly they acted based on fear (or possible just complete disregard for the truth and interests of others).
Am I understanding correctly that recent revelations from Ilya's deposition (e.g. looking at the parts here) suggest Ilya Sutskever and Mira Murati seem like very selfish and/or cowardly people? They seem approximately as scheming or manipulative as Sam Altman, if maybe more cowardly and less competent.
My understanding from is that they were basically wholly responsible for causing the board to try to fire Sam Altman. But when it went south, they actively sabotaged the firing (e.g. Mira disavowing it and trying to retain her role, Ilya saying he regrets it) and then let Helen Toner, Tasha McCauley, and effective altruism / AI safety take the blame almost completely, for years (as Zvi notes in the post linked above). I think this is a really really bad thing to do!
Am I understanding this correctly?
Over the last few years, I’ve had a lot of conversations with people in the rationalist and adjacent communities about psychedelic use, mainly focused on potential benefits, potential risks, and good and bad outcomes they’ve seen in others from using psychedelics. I often wished I had more hard data about this, and that it came from groups that seemed more analogous to people in the rationalist and nearby communities than eg the average taker of existing surveys on psychedelics. So I decided to run a survey on this on the recent ACX reader survey, and am sharing the results here. (I’m posting this using an anonymous username, but I’ve been around the... (read 2919 more words →)
More broadly, it just feels like a just-so story based on a single anecdote. I think a lot of people do think that their parents loved some of their kids more than others, one could generate a lot of different stories about why that happens and why it doesn't happen, and how it relates to one's feelings about oneself and one's partner. And the evidence/story here doesn't seem very strong to me.