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Highlights from the Blackmail Debate (Robin Hanson vs Zvi Mowshowitz)

Your point #1 misses the whole norm violation element. The reason it hurts if others are told about an affair is that others disapprove. That isn't why loud music hurts.

Highlights from the Blackmail Debate (Robin Hanson vs Zvi Mowshowitz)

Imagine there's a law against tattoos, and I say "Yes some gang members wear them but so do many others. Maybe just outlaw gang tattoos?" You could then respond that I'm messing with edge cases, so we should just leave the rule alone.

Analyzing Blackmail Being Illegal (Hanson and Mowshowitz related)

You will allow harmful gossip, but not blackmail, because the first might be pursuing your "values", but the second is seeking to harm. Yet the second can have many motives, and is mostly commonly to get money. And you are focused too much on motives, rather than on outcomes.

Highlights from the Blackmail Debate (Robin Hanson vs Zvi Mowshowitz)

The sensible approach is. to demand a stream of payments over time. If you reveal it to others who also demand streams, that will cut how much of a stream they are willing to pay you.

Highlights from the Blackmail Debate (Robin Hanson vs Zvi Mowshowitz)

You are very much in the minority if you want to abolish norms in general.

Highlights from the Blackmail Debate (Robin Hanson vs Zvi Mowshowitz)

NDAs are also legal in the case where info was known before the agreement. For example, Trump using NDAs to keep affairs secret.

What can the principal-agent literature tell us about AI risk?

"models are brittle" and "models are limited" ARE the generic complaints I pointed to.

What can the principal-agent literature tell us about AI risk?

We have lots of models that are useful even when the conclusions follow pretty directly. Such as supply and demand. The question is whether such models are useful, not if they are simple.

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