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Talk by Robin Hanson on Elites

Aw,  I still don't know which face goes with the TGGP name.

Robin Hanson's Grabby Aliens model explained - part 1

Wow, it seems that EVERYONE here has this counter argument "You say humans look weird according to this calculation, but here are other ways we are weird that you don't explain." But there is NO WAY to explain all ways we are weird, because we are in fact weird in some ways. For each way that we are weird, we should be looking for some other way to see the situation that makes us look less weird. But there is no guarantee of finding that; we just just actually be weird. https://www.overcomingbias.com/2021/07/why-are-we-weird.html

Robin Hanson's Grabby Aliens model explained - part 1

You have the date of the great filter paper wrong; it was 1998, not 1996.

Grabby aliens and Zoo hypothesis

Yes, a zoo hypothesis is much like a simulation hypothesis, and the data we use cannot exclude it. (Nor can they exclude a simulation hypothesis.) We choose to assume that grabby aliens change their volumes in some clearly visible way, exactly to exclude zoo hypotheses. 

Highlights from the Blackmail Debate (Robin Hanson vs Zvi Mowshowitz)

Your point #1 misses the whole norm violation element. The reason it hurts if others are told about an affair is that others disapprove. That isn't why loud music hurts.

Highlights from the Blackmail Debate (Robin Hanson vs Zvi Mowshowitz)

Imagine there's a law against tattoos, and I say "Yes some gang members wear them but so do many others. Maybe just outlaw gang tattoos?" You could then respond that I'm messing with edge cases, so we should just leave the rule alone.

Analyzing Blackmail Being Illegal (Hanson and Mowshowitz related)

You will allow harmful gossip, but not blackmail, because the first might be pursuing your "values", but the second is seeking to harm. Yet the second can have many motives, and is mostly commonly to get money. And you are focused too much on motives, rather than on outcomes.

Highlights from the Blackmail Debate (Robin Hanson vs Zvi Mowshowitz)

The sensible approach is. to demand a stream of payments over time. If you reveal it to others who also demand streams, that will cut how much of a stream they are willing to pay you.

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