(sorry for the nitpick but I think you meant to say EDT with updatefulness double counts?)
...I think their plan is more robust than you expect, because "solving agent foundations" is not like "writing down some code", it's more like "totally refactoring your ontology for how rational agents make decisions". From an outside view, having the best understanding of how it's rational to make decisions does seem like it'll very plausibly help you not make obvious mistakes. And from my inside view, I actually think that the solution to agent foundations is specifically action-guiding on questions like "when and how should I try to accumulate power?" (I e
This is the best initial attempt I’ve seen at answering this question (or something like it, anyway). I don’t think it has a clear answer to many of the thorny cases though.
I agree with that!
The idea that there are no more good ideas and it's all just scaling from here
Fwiw, this is not how I understand his take. I think he’s saying AI progress will be bottlenecked by compute (and human expert data), which I interpret to mean that the elasticity of substitution between compute/data and ideas isn’t high enough. In fact, I think this his view includes compute to run experiments to do AI research.
I feel like there’s some kind of disanalogy between the prime factorization case (where the goal itself is well-defined (the job is to “find the prime factorization, where N has a process-independent prime factorization”), and hence processes can be refined to become better processes in reaching the goal) and normative goals under the broadly-Humean framework (where the output of the procedure is the goal, and there’s no further goal to reach).
That said, I think there’s something in the vicinity of this that feels right to me. Maybe it has to do with the ...
It seems to me that:
As a moral anti-realist, I’m sympathetic to something sort of like Humean constructivism, although with a substantial component of “self creation”/understanding that, at the bottom, it’s still on me. In that case, though, I kind of think the values I end up with upon reflection — if the reflection happens in a way I endorse — are what I’d consider my “true values.” This also means that, if the reflection process is underspecified, I get to specify the idealization process I’d like, as it is a process of making, and discovering, myself according to the filt...
That analogy is helpful, thanks. I think I still feel like there’s a gap between developing a good theory of decision-making and putting that theory into immediate practice. For instance, immediately after developing expected utility theory, I could imagine there’s a processing gap among someone who isn’t used to using it to make everyday decisions; I feel a meaningful amount of doubt that von Neumann was much less likely to read books while driving after internalizing expected utility theory (obviously, maybe his preference for doing this was just that st... (read more)