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Popular religions suggest extrapolated volition is non-existence and wireheading

I didn't say I had an answer. I only said it can be an interesting dilemma.

Popular religions suggest extrapolated volition is non-existence and wireheading

That's true, but the change a strong AI would make would be probably completely irreversible and unmodifiable.

Popular religions suggest extrapolated volition is non-existence and wireheading

This brings up an interesting ethical dilemma. If strong AI will ever be possible, it will be probably designed with the values of what you described as a small minority. Does this this small minority have the ethical right to enforce a new world upon the majority which will be against their values?

HOWTO: Screw Up The LessWrong Survey and Bring Great Shame To Your Family

I usually look out for the surveys, but until I opened this article I never even knew there was a survey for this year... so yeah, poor advertising.

New business opportunities due to self-driving cars

"services that go visit the customer outcompete ones that the customer has to go visit" - and what does this have to do with self-driving cars? Whether the doctor has to actively drive the car to travel to the patient, or can just sit there in the car while the car drives all the way, the same time is still lost due to the travel, and the same fuel is still used up. A doctor or a hairdresser would be able to spend significantly less time with customers, if most of the working day would be taken up by traveling. And what about all the tools which have to be carried inside the customer's house?

And self driving hotel rooms? What, are we in the Harry Potter world where things can be larger in the inside than in the outside?

Mini map of s-risks

I know about the first one having been mentioned on this site, I've read about it plenty of times, but it was not named as such. Therefore it's advisable if you use a rare term (or especially one made up by you) that you also tell what it means.

Mini map of s-risks

Could you please put some links to "Hacker's joke" and "Indexical blackmail"? Both use words common enough to not yield obvious results for a google search.

Any Christians Here?

Another Christian here, raised as a Calvinist, but consider myself more of a non-denominational, ecumenical one, with some very slight deist tendencies.

I don't want to sound rude, but I don't know how to formulate it in a better way: if you think you have to choose between christianity and science, you have a very incomplete information about what Christianity is about, and also incomplete knowledge about the history of science itself. I wonder how many who call themselves Bayesians know that Bayes was a very devout Christian, similar to many other founders of modern science who where also philosophers and theologians.

This "Christianity is the enemy of rational thought" idea seems to be relatively recent, and is probably caused or at least magnified by the handful young earth creationists being very loud.

Why there are so few committed Christians here on this site, can be attributed to, among other factors, to how this community started. Reading the earliest posts, it seems that almost every single one of them was a rant against Christianity. No wonder this community mostly attracted atheists, at least in the beginning.

Christianity doesn't mean, and shouldn't mean, trials after trials to find a mathematical proof of God's existence and a vicious fight against those who claim to have found mathematical proofs of God's non-existence.

I want to converse and debate with rationalists who despite their Bayesian enlightenment choose to remain in the flock.

I would love to speak with them, to know exactly why they still believe and how

I'll try an example to give back at least some part of the feeling. Let's say you enjoy to listen to the songs of birds at dawn. (if you actually don't, then imagine something else, something you enjoy which is not based around rationality. Like the smell of fresh flowers, or your favorite musical instrument, or looking at a great painting)

Would you stop enjoying listening to the singing birds, would you stop finding it beautiful, if someone explained it to you that scientifically, they are just waves formed by ordinary molecules bumping into each other, they are just mechanical vibrations, and you shouldn't find anything more in them? Or would you stop enjoying it if someone pointed out to you that there were some horrible criminals hundreds of years ago on the other side of the planet who also claimed to enjoy listening to the songs of birds? Would you stop enjoying it if someone pointed it out to you that there is no rational explanation why you would find this vibration of the air more beautiful than any other vibration of the air? And, more importantly, would you find the singing of birds suddenly something horrible and disgusting, just because you developed a greater understanding in a scientific topic? (I'm not claiming Christianity is merely a form of thoughts to find pleasure or refuge in, this was only an example of how something which is not based on rationality can be compatible with rationality.)

Open thread, May 15 - May 21, 2017

If you make 100 loaves and sell them for 99 cents each, you've provided 1 dollar of value to society, but made 100 dollars for yourself.

Not 99 dollars?

The 2017 Effective Altruism Survey - Please Take!

Anyone who is reading this should take this survey, even if you don't identify as an "effective altruist".

Why? The questions are too much centered not only on effective altruists, but also on left- or far-left-leaning ideologies. I stopped filling it when it assumed only movements of that single political spectrum are considered social movements.

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