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Visible Thoughts Project and Bounty Announcement


  • Team up with friends who already play DnD or write glowfic. Less scalable but can grab the $20k.

  • Similarly, if you're unemployed/ have lots of free time just sit down and write it yourself.

  • Recruit from a local University. This can be very scalable if you e.g. know the creative writing professor.

  • Recruit from roleplaying groups or online roleplaying forums. Requires a bit more filtering than the above.

  • Recruit from fiverr or similar. Requires lots of initial filtering but can end up with low price. Create a series of increasingly less automated tasks as a filter (eg start with a multiple choice quiz that's automatically graded)

  • Ask a person who already does this kind of thing how they would go about it.

  • I don't want to name names publicly here, but post on BR, or talk to MR to use his team.

  • Use the volunteers who are posting here.

  • Show this post to a whole bunch of people who you think might want to grab the $20k as individuals. Let them know that if enough of them make the $20k thing that you will all team up to churn out the $1m thing, split proportionally.

Visible Thoughts Project and Bounty Announcement

I can't tell if it is purposeful that this is set up in an adversarial/ winner-take-all kind of way. It's really off-putting to me, and seems to encourage everyone being out for themselves, rather than collaboration. Particularly for such an inherently collaborative product. Maybe Nate and Eliezer just expect cooperation to fail?

Anyways, if people DO want to attempt some kind of collaboration... EDIT- Don't join my Facebook group, join plex's Discord linked in the comment below instead

Zoe Curzi's Experience with Leverage Research

Multiple times on this thread I've seen you make the point about figuring out what responsibility should fall on Geoff, and what should be attributed to his underlings.

I just want to point out that it is a pattern for powerful bad actors to be VERY GOOD at never explicitly giving a command for a bad thing to happen, while still managing to get all their followers on board and doing the bad thing that they only hinted at/ set up incentive structures for, etc.

Book Review: How To Talk So Little Kids Will Listen

("So Kids Will Learn" is old enough that I expect lots of it too be mostly debunked growth mindset and the like, but I expect will still hold valuable bits)

Book Review: How To Talk So Little Kids Will Listen

Thank you! There is actually a whole bunch of similar books by the Fabers such as "How to Talk So Kids Will Learn" and "How To Talk When Kids Won't Listen."

I plan on listening to a few more in the next year or so.

Book Review: Churchill and Orwell

I really enjoyed this book review and appreciated how well-written it was. It captured my attention and didn't feel like a slog to get through at all.

If I were to make a suggestion, it would be to think of some question you can ask that can spark discussion. After reading this review I feel like I gained knowledge, but don't feel like I have any good handles to comment about it. (to be fair, I tried to add some comment-affordances to my book review and also didn't get any responses, so maybe this advice is not actually great)

Perceptual dexterity: a case study

This feels like opinion stated as fact.

I have some strong disagreements with what you say, but I recognize that it may be true for some people. It feels like you're trying to universalize your own opinion / experiences.

Book summary: Selfish Reasons to Have More Kids

I'm saying it's $25k PER CYCLE. (granted, this is Bay Area prices, but still)

IVF requires multiple other expenses that aren't the fertilization itself. These other expenses include about $5-6k of injectable drugs that stimulate egg production, and about $6000 for the implantation.

Book summary: Selfish Reasons to Have More Kids

I agree. I think the IVF number is just plain wrong. I'm getting ready to have IVF myself and the total bill will be well over $25k even if we succeed in the first round, which is only 65% likely.

Maybe he researched the cost of "IVF" itself, but didn't think to add on the cost of implantation, injectable drugs, etc. which is a huge percentage of the cost.

Perceptual dexterity: a case study

I am rather good at not applying judgment to e.g. children or dogs, but relatedly have a very strong intuitive agent /patient split, which I understand doesn't actually match reality.

At the same time, I am rightfully frustrated by the self-serving picking and choosing of when to use an agentic frame v when to use a moral patient frame.

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