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Replying toPlease give your links speaking names!

I prefer oppositely, to not break the flow of reading. Not to have a hypothetical vocalization of the text switch its moment-to-moment purpose to being a bibliography, let me compress to, "the author linked an article they claimed said shrimping was a fundamental drill for grappling", and move on. Often, I'd even prefer to leave out the "according to this article", and make the statement itself link text.

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Terrorism, Tylenol, and dangerous information

If this doubled such attacks, it would not be a feather on the scales, and you know that.

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Aliveness

Hmm. Problem with crossposting is that in-text links aren't really visible here. Last time I tried it, at least one person didn't notice a link to a post, without which they misunderstood my post. Have discussed this with some devs, and remain convinced I need visible links. Y'all go your way, I'll go mine.

Edit: Actually I have more reason not to want automatic crossposting than that.

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Aliveness

Upvoted for minding long-term evolution of the structure. On the fence about whether it's worth it. Maybe "livingness"? (Would that help much or be almost as confusing?) I don't think I could pick anything but a synonym and not obscure the concept.

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Aliveness

This sounds like it was written for one of my draft posts to be a response to. Excellent.

Edit: summary is, your conception of productive is probably distorted by your refusal to engage the circuits that a reframing like this turns off. If you refuse a gate, you end up in a parallel universe where the actions you take seem correct and the gate seems unusuable anyway. If you go through, it feels like there's nothing you can do about it and you've destroyed hope for nothing, until you start to rebuild your mind in the more complete view of the world.

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The O'Brien Technique

Nope. That's just a process this thing is calling into. See this for more info on the context for this technique. (And the primary use case for this is where neither of the belifs/aliefs is wrong, and you end up grokking they are separate instead.)

The O'Brien Technique

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Schelling place for comments is here on LessWrong.

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Schelling Orders

Thanks for linking that. From shallow accesses to caches because I'm in the middle of something, "side-taking" morality is too specific. I call this component "trade morality".

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Schelling Orders

Oh shit, I was gonna write that up before I published this and then I forgot. Will fix later. (Edit: posted with slightly more detail [here](https://www.lesserwrong.com/posts/XYzKEic8CovkWNwtb/the-o-brien-technique))

I'm naming it after the character from 1984, it's a way of disentangling social reality / reality buckets errors in system 1, by holding two different contradicting verbal statements in your head, "2+2=4", "2+2=5", and contrasting them and their uses and anticipations until they split apart into not seeming to be talking about the same thing. (Use "2+2=5" to anticipate social reality, use "2+2=4" to anticipate reality.) Try guiding the "that's inconsistent" processes it spins up to focus their efforts along two separate planes, or something like... (read more)

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Mana

Yes, something like that.

I also mean to imply the consequence of severing yourself from the Khala is profoundly disturbing isolation. It is done by deciding that no one is your ingroup or something like that, resulting in a feeling of stepping outside of a game containing all social interactions.

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Mana

Thanks. I have considered and tried to implement strategies like that, and I think it's better for me to do what I'm doing because:

I do model-building primarily for my purposes of using models to decide things in real life. This kind of content, with a bunch of dependencies because it was made based on pulling from my entire worldview, is the content which already exists. The subset which I can link something to explain the dependencies is what I can write in the course of my life which is mostly not about writing, without spending time generating sort-of-related surface-level content. A much larger chunk of the work for doing the writing I'm doing is "free" in that I'm already doing it. And in practice that makes it something that I actually have time to do sometimes.

Also, I think you'd be surprised. I've had at least one person who didn't know me personally get it, I think.

Mana

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(This is a copy-pasted blog post from https://sinceriously.fyi/, I'm checking how much demand here there is for my writing.)

This is theorizing about how mana works and its implications. (Edit: usable link: https://sinceriously.fyi/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Brent-Dill-So-wacky-RPG-session-from-a-riff-with-Anisha-and..pdf)

Some seemingly large chunks of stuff mana seems to be made of:

Internal agreement. The thing that doles out "willpower".
Ability to not use the dehumanizing perspective in response to a hostile social reality.

I've been witness to and a participant in a fair bit of emotional support in the last year. I seem to get a lot less from it than my friends. (One claims suddenly having a lot more ability to "look into the dark" on suddenly having reliable emotional support for the first time... (read 1126 more words →)

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