'🚨 The annual report of the US-China Economic and Security Review Commission is now live. 🚨

Its top recommendation is for Congress and the DoD to fund a Manhattan Project-like program to race to AGI.

Buckle up...' 

https://x.com/hamandcheese/status/1858897287268725080

I suspect current approaches probably significantly or even drastically under-elicit automated ML research capabilities.

I'd guess the average cost of producing a decent ML paper is at least 10k$ (in the West, at least) and probably closer to 100k's $.

In contrast, Sakana's AI scientist cost on average 15$/paper and .50$/review. PaperQA2, which claims superhuman performance at some scientific Q&A and lit review tasks, costs something like 4$/query. Other papers with claims of human-range performance on ideation or reviewing also probably have costs of <10$/idea or review.

Even the auto ML R&D benchmarks from METR or UK AISI don't give me at all the vibes of coming anywhere near close enough to e.g. what a 100-person team at OpenAI could accomplish in 1 year, if they tried really hard to automate ML.

A fairer comparison would probably be to actually try hard at building the kind of scaffold which could use ~10k$ in inference costs productively. I suspect the resulting agent would probably not do much better than with 100$ of inference, but it seems hard to be confident. And it seems harder still to be confident about what will happen even in just 3 years' time, give... (read more)

Eliezer (among others in the MIRI mindspace) has this whole spiel about human kindness/sympathy/empathy/prosociality being contingent on specifics of the human evolutionary/cultural trajectory, e.g. https://twitter.com/ESYudkowsky/status/1660623336567889920 and about how gradient descent is supposed to be nothing like that https://twitter.com/ESYudkowsky/status/1660623900789862401. I claim that the same argument (about evolutionary/cultural contingencies) could be made about e.g. image aesthetics/affect, and this hypothesis should lose many Bayes points when we observe concrete empirical evidence of gradient descent leading to surprisingly human-like aesthetic perceptions/affect, e.g. The Perceptual Primacy of Feeling: Affectless machine vision models robustly predict human visual arousal, valence, and aesthetics; Towards Disentangling the Roles of Vision & Language in Aesthetic Experience with Multimodal DNNs; Controlled assessment of CLIP-style language-aligned vision models in prediction of brain & behavioral data; Neural mechanisms underlying the hierarchical construction of perceived aesthetic value.

12/10/24 update: more, and in my view even somewhat methodologically s... (read more)

Contra both the 'doomers' and the 'optimists' on (not) pausing. Rephrased: RSPs (done right) seem right.

Contra 'doomers'. Oversimplified, 'doomers' (e.g. PauseAI, FLI's letter, Eliezer) ask(ed) for pausing now / even earlier - (e.g. the Pause Letter). I expect this would be / have been very much suboptimal, even purely in terms of solving technical alignment. For example, Some thoughts on automating alignment research suggests timing the pause so that we can use automated AI safety research could result in '[...] each month of lead that the leader started out with would correspond to 15,000 human researchers working for 15 months.' We clearly don't have such automated AI safety R&D capabilities now, suggesting that pausing later, when AIs are closer to having the required automated AI safety R&D capabilities would be better. At the same time, current models seem very unlikely to be x-risky (e.g. they're still very bad at passing dangerous capabilities evals), which is another reason to think pausing now would be premature.

Contra 'optimists'. I'm more unsure here, but the vibe I'm getting from e.g. AI Pause Will Likely Backfire (Guest Post) is roughly something like 'no paus... (read more)

Hot take, though increasingly moving towards lukewarm: if you want to get a pause/international coordination on powerful AI (which would probably be net good, though likely it would strongly depend on implementation details), arguments about risks from destabilization/power dynamics and potential conflicts between various actors are probably both more legible and 'truer' than arguments about technical intent misalignment and loss of control (especially for not-wildly-superhuman AI).

Quick take on o1: overall, it's been a pretty good day. Likely still sub-ASL-3, (opaque) scheming still seems very unlikely because the prerequisites still don't seem there. CoT-style inference compute playing a prominent role in the capability gains is pretty good for safety, because differentially transparent. Gains on math and code suggest these models are getting closer to being usable for automated safety research (also for automated capabilities research, unfortunately).

QwQ-32B-Preview was released open-weights, seems comparable to o1-preview. Unless they're gaming the benchmarks, I find it both pretty impressive and quite shocking that a 32B model can achieve this level of performance. Seems like great news vs. opaque (e.g in one-forward-pass) reasoning. Less good with respect to proliferation (there don't seem to be any [deep] algorithmic secrets), misuse and short timelines.

Like transformers, SSMs like Mamba also have weak single forward passes: The Illusion of State in State-Space Models (summary thread). As suggested previously in The Parallelism Tradeoff: Limitations of Log-Precision Transformers, this may be due to a fundamental tradeoff between parallelizability and expressivity:

'We view it as an interesting open question whether it is possible to develop SSM-like models with greater expressivity for state tracking that also have strong parallelizability and learning dynamics, or whether these different goals are fundamentally at odds, as Merrill & Sabharwal (2023a) suggest.'

'Data movement bottlenecks limit LLM scaling beyond 2e28 FLOP, with a "latency wall" at 2e31 FLOP. We may hit these in ~3 years. Aggressive batch size scaling could potentially overcome these limits.' https://epochai.org/blog/data-movement-bottlenecks-scaling-past-1e28-flop 

Success at currently-researched generalized inference scaling laws might risk jeopardizing some of the fundamental assumptions of current regulatory frameworks.

• the o1 results have illustrated specialized inference scaling laws, for model capabilities  in some specialized domains (e.g. math); notably, these don't seem to generally hold for all domains - e.g. o1 doesn't seem better than gpt4o at writing;
• there's ongoing work at OpenAI to make generalized inference scaling work;
• e.g. this could perhaps (though maybe somewhat overambitiously) be framed, in the language of https://epochai.org/blog/trading-off-compute-in-training-and-inference, as there no longer being an upper bound in how many OOMs of inference compute can be traded for equivalent OOMs of pretraining;
• to the best of my awarenes, current regulatory frameworks/proposals (e.g. the EU AI Act, the Executive Order, SB 1047) frame the capabilities of models in terms of (pre)training compute and maybe fine-tuning compute (e.g. if (pre)training FLOP > 1e26, the developer needs to take various measures), without any similar requirements framed in terms of inference compute; so current regulatory frameworks seem unprepared f

Quick take: on the margin, a lot more research should probably be going into trying to produce benchmarks/datasets/evaluation methods for safety (than more directly doing object-level safety research). 

Some past examples I find valuable - in the case of unlearning: WMDP, Eight Methods to Evaluate Robust Unlearning in LLMs; in the case of mech interp - various proxies for SAE performance, e.g. from Scaling and evaluating sparse autoencoders, as well as various benchmarks, e.g. FIND: A Function Description Benchmark for Evaluating Interpretability Methods. Prizes and RFPs seem like a potentially scalable way to do this - e.g. https://www.mlsafety.org/safebench - and I think they could be particularly useful on short timelines.

Including differentially vs. doing the full stack of AI safety work - because I expect a lot of such work could be done by automated safety researchers soon, with the right benchmarks/datasets/evaluation methods. This could also make it much easier to evaluate the work of automated safety researchers and to potentially reduce the need for human feedback, which could be a significant bottleneck.

Better proxies could also make it easier to productively deploy ... (read more)

I think this one (and perhaps better operationalizations) should probably have many eyes on it: 

Jack Clark: 'Registering a prediction: I predict that within two years (by July 2026) we'll see an AI system beat all humans at the IMO, obtaining the top score. Alongside this, I would wager we'll see the same thing - an AI system beating all humans in a known-hard competition - in another scientific domain outside of mathematics. If both of those things occur, I believe that will present strong evidence that AI may successfully automate large chunks of scientific research before the end of the decade.' https://importai.substack.com/p/import-ai-380-distributed-13bn-parameter 

I find it pretty wild that automating AI safety R&D, which seems to me like the best shot we currently have at solving the full superintelligence control/alignment problem, no longer seems to have any well-resourced, vocal, public backers (with the superalignment team disbanded).

from https://jack-clark.net/2024/08/18/import-ai-383-automated-ai-scientists-cyborg-jellyfish-what-it-takes-to-run-a-cluster/…, commenting on https://arxiv.org/abs/2408.06292: 'Why this matters – the taste of automated science: This paper gives us a taste of a future where powerful AI systems propose their own ideas, use tools to do scientific experiments, and generate results. At this stage, what we have here is basically a ‘toy example’ with papers of dubious quality and insights of dubious import. But you know where we were with language models five yea... (read more)

On an apparent missing mood - FOMO on all the vast amounts of automated AI safety R&D that could (almost already) be produced safely 

Automated AI safety R&D could results in vast amounts of work produced quickly. E.g. from Some thoughts on automating alignment research (under certain assumptions detailed in the post): 

each month of lead that the leader started out with would correspond to 15,000 human researchers working for 15 months.

Despite this promise, we seem not to have much knowledge when such automated AI safety R&D might happ... (read more)

(cross-posted from X/twitter)

The already-feasibility of https://sakana.ai/ai-scientist/ (with basically non-x-risky systems, sub-ASL-3, and bad at situational awareness so very unlikely to be scheming) has updated me significantly on the tractability of the alignment / control problem. More than ever, I expect it's gonna be relatively tractable (if done competently and carefully) to safely, iteratively automate parts of AI safety research, all the way up to roughly human-level automated safety research (using LLM agents roughly-shaped like the AI scientist... (read more)

Change my mind: outer alignment will likely be solved by default for LLMs. Brain-LM scaling laws (https://arxiv.org/abs/2305.11863) + LM embeddings as model of shared linguistic space for transmitting thoughts during communication (https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.06.27.546708v1.abstract) suggest outer alignment will be solved by default for LMs: we'll be able to 'transmit our thoughts', including alignment-relevant concepts (and they'll also be represented in a [partially overlapping] human-like way).

Prototype of LLM agents automating the full AI research workflow: The AI Scientist: Towards Fully Automated Open-Ended Scientific Discovery.

And already some potential AI safety issues: 'We have noticed that The AI Scientist occasionally tries to increase its chance of success, such as modifying and launching its own execution script! We discuss the AI safety implications in our paper.

For example, in one run, it edited the code to perform a system call to run itself. This led to the script endlessly calling itself. In another case, its experiments took too ... (read more)

A brief list of resources with theoretical results which seem to imply RL is much more (e.g. sample efficiency-wise) difficult than IL - imitation learning (I don't feel like I have enough theoretical RL expertise or time to scrutinize hard the arguments, but would love for others to pitch in). Probably at least somewhat relevant w.r.t. discussions of what the first AIs capable of obsoleting humanity could look like: 

Paper: Is a Good Representation Sufficient for Sample Efficient Reinforcement Learning? (quote: 'This work shows that, from the statisti... (read more)

56% on swebench-lite with repeated sampling (13% above previous SOTA; up from 15.9% with one sample to 56% with 250 samples), with a very-below-SOTA model https://arxiv.org/abs/2407.21787; anything automatically verifiable (large chunks of math and coding) seems like it's gonna be automatable in < 5 years.

(epistemic status: quick take, as the post category says)

Browsing though EAG London attendees' profiles and seeing what seems like way too many people / orgs doing (I assume dangerous capabilities) evals. I expect a huge 'market downturn' on this, since I can hardly see how there would be so much demand for dangerous capabilities evals in a couple years' time / once some notorious orgs like the AISIs build their sets, which many others will probably copy. 

While at the same time other kinds of evals (e.g. alignment, automated AI safety R&D, even control) seem wildly neglected.