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New Favicon

by Alicorn
26th Aug 2011
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New Favicon
31Armok_GoB
8NancyLebovitz
2The Dao of Bayes
6Vladimir_Nesov
21komponisto
1Douglas_Knight
7Dreaded_Anomaly
3Sniffnoy
11ArisKatsaris
11Alicorn
9ArisKatsaris
0pragmatist
0dvasya
-1fubarobfusco
8wedrifid
9[anonymous]
2wedrifid
8pragmatist
0The Dao of Bayes
6matt
5Paul Crowley
4Bobertron
0hairyfigment
1Armok_GoB
2shokwave
1Armok_GoB
2matt
1Armok_GoB
0Armok_GoB
2shokwave
1Normal_Anomaly
1ahartell
0Normal_Anomaly
0ahartell
0wedrifid
2Normal_Anomaly
1wedrifid
1Larks
0thomblake
0Oscar_Cunningham
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[-]Armok_GoB14y310

I don't know, but I strongly prefer the old one. :(

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[-]NancyLebovitz14y80

Me too.

If I want to find a tab, a color and shape is easier. The red 'x' isn't enough color to help.

The effect is of some sort of random computer message rather than a handy icon.

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[-]The Dao of Bayes14y20

Same here. Oddly, the wiki's icon seems unchanged.

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[-]Vladimir_Nesov14y60

The problem I feel about it is that it doesn't constitute a whole, the picture on a favicon should be one button-like thing.

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[-]komponisto14y210

I would have posted this if I had known the term "favicon".

I realize whoever thought of this must have thought they were being clever, but the previous "Lw" is far superior: it is much easier to recognize and spot quickly (which I assume is the whole point of "favicons"), and the colors better reflect those of the site.

The favicon is basically a logo for the site, and should resemble the header as much as possible.

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[-]Douglas_Knight14y10

How do you know that the old one was easier to recognize and spot quickly? I think most people are being tricked by introspection because the old one is familiar. I agree that colors matching the site should make it easier to learn, but I'm not sure how strong that effect would be.

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[-]Dreaded_Anomaly14y70

The old one consisted of the characters "Lw", the abbreviation for the site name, with colors resembling the site's color scheme. These are all straightforward indicators. While I understand the intention of the new icon, it is not nearly as straightforward.

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[-]Sniffnoy14y30

The new one looks like it could be part of the browser interface. (Though this is partly due to how Firefox displays favicons now; I suspect this would be reduced in other browsers.)

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[-]ArisKatsaris14y110

I... suppose if '<' means 'less than' in typical mathematican notation, 'x' must mean 'wrong', to have the total meaning be something like 'less than wrong'...

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[-]Alicorn14y110

But that sounds like it means "not even wrong"...

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[-]ArisKatsaris14y90

Yeah, it also just occurred to me, after I typed that comment, that wronger than wrong would also be a valid interpretation of this. Perhaps I ought let whoever made the change to interpret it, instead of offering my guesses. :-)

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[-]pragmatist14y00

Good point. I guess '<' is meant to be read "less", rather than the standard "less than".

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[-]dvasya14y00

Yup... "less than wrong", absolutely.

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[-]fubarobfusco14y-10

I think it's meant as a rebus, rather than as a section.

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[-]wedrifid14y80

I had assumed it was a bug (I hadn't looked sufficiently closely). It's... less than ideal.

The colour in particular I don't like, even though I can see why a green cross doesn't work.

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[-][anonymous]14y90

It's... less than ideal.

So a red X would be an ideal favicon.

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[-]wedrifid14y20

Hah!

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[-]pragmatist14y80

I'm assuming the 'X' is supposed to be a cross, the traditional academic symbol for an answer being wrong (as opposed to check for right answers). The '<' is the 'less than' symbol.

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[-]The Dao of Bayes14y00

Ahhh, I was wondering how one was supposed to solve for X there :)

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[-]matt14y60

Sorry. A new try will be up soon.

(And I've downgraded my self assessment of the quality of my sense of humour. For what it's worth, this one was only intended for a short residency.)

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[-]Paul Crowley14y50

I had trouble seeing it, so here's a direct link to make it easier to reload:

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[-]Bobertron14y40

I think it looks like a fish.

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[-]hairyfigment14y00

No, it's a cone of C4-flavored ice-cream in the process of exploding.

Or maybe an emoticon of someone reacting to a pun.

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[-]Armok_GoB14y10

Ok, so just about everyone is complaining about this and nobody is doing anything. Can someone please tell me who might be responsible so I may contact them and ask them to revert the change?

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[-]shokwave14y20

I don't know who's responsible, but TrikeApps maintain this website. Now, I know Matt (trikeapps boss guy) in real life, and I feel really bad about throwing him under the bus here, so please could Armok, and Armok only, contact him? Fifteen emails will just waste his time.

Also, sorry Matt!

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[-]Armok_GoB14y10

Hmm, if you know him maybe it'd be more effective if you asked him rather than some random stranger? Especially since I am having a hard time coming up with anything to write.

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[-]matt14y20

I'm not very scary, and you're not some random stranger. You're Armok_GoB, 800+ karma. (New favicon will be up soon.)

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[-]Armok_GoB14y10

Hehe, thanks! I guess I'm a bit shy in front of people my brain doesn't classify as fungible*.

((* probably not a correct usage, but the statement is technically correct because it's the same brain doing the classifying and is doing it incorrectly in exactly the same way as, uh, itself. :p Also not that this is not necessarily somehting I endorse, and I'm just saying it because I were just reminded I should not be shy. ))

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[-]Armok_GoB14y00

Looks like it's working to me now! thanks! This one is indeed much better!

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[-]shokwave14y20

Sure.

edit - Sent.

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[-]Normal_Anomaly14y10

I'm using Firefox and it still says "Lw". I don't know whether it was changed back, or just never changed in Firefox. Either way, thanks for teaching me the word Favicon!

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[-]ahartell14y10

I see the old Favicon on both Safari and Chrome. I even emptied the cache in Safari. I wonder why we aren't seeing the same image as the others.

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[-]Normal_Anomaly14y00

On further inspection, Firefox is doing something interesting. When I type the start of the LW URL in the URL bar, the dropdown suggestion menu has the "<X" favicon, but when I actually go to the page, I get the "Lw" favicon.

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[-]ahartell14y00

How anomalous. I'm finally seeing the "<X" favicon on my phone, but still no chalge on my computer. Are other people running OS X lion?

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[-]wedrifid14y00

Pressing shift-F5 would quite likely change it. (If that is what you want.)

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[-]Normal_Anomaly14y20

Cool tip, but I think the old one is better. The new one looks like a heart and could, as Alicorn pointed out, easy be read as "not even wrong."

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[-]wedrifid14y10

I agree. :)

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[-]Larks14y10

I thought it was my browser's fault! Overcoming bias changed too.

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[-]thomblake12y00

Current favicon is best favicon.

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[-]Oscar_Cunningham14y00

Awesome.

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[-]shokwave14y-10

I don't mind it.

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wedrifid14y80

I had assumed it was a bug (I hadn't looked sufficiently closely). It's... less than ideal.

The colour in particular I don't like, even though I can see why a green cross doesn't work.

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[anonymous]14y90

It's... less than ideal.

So a red X would be an ideal favicon.

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LW appears to have acquired a new favicon, "<X" in place of the prior "Lw".  This change wasn't announced and I don't know what the new icon means.  Can someone explain it to me?