I'm now getting notices when people reply to my articles in the comment section. These replies show up in my inbox. I'm not sure this is a new feature, but I know this didn't use to happen for me.
So cool!
Last 30 days karma is disabled for now because it was interacting weirdly with a new feature; TrikeApps is working on the fix.
Zero for me too, and others reported the same on the IRC channel. I think the site got an upgrade that zapped some state. More interesting than the local karma display breakage, there now seems to be a 5 karma point troll feeding fee whenever you want to reply to a comment that has been downvoted to -3 or below.
More interesting than the local karma display breakage, there now seems to be a 5 karma point troll feeding fee whenever you want to reply to a comment that has been downvoted to -3 or below.
This will lead to more complaining from those who are frustrated at being down voted without explanation
Also I wonder if you take the 5 karma hit if you reply to your own under -3 karma post.
This will lead to more complaining from those who are frustrated at being down voted without explanation
And from people who think they have attracted a stalker clique that downvotes everything they post.
That's a really good point. After this update, all one needs to stifle conversation with a trivial inconvenience is 3 + sockpuppets.
I just realized that there's another problem with this scheme: anyone using the "Anti-Kibitzer" will have absolutely no clue why they're losing karma.
Nope. It pops up a warning that asks you if you want to blow karma by replying if you try to reply to a downvoted post, even if you have the Kibitzer on.
Does the reply get marked down to -5 to start with, or are the 5 karma points invisibly subtracted from one's total karma?
This confuses me too, actually. Before this feature, one's karma score was solely the sum of the scores of one's posts and comments. Adding another invisible feature means that your total karma can't be reliably reconstructed by looking at those features, even if you throw in information about the ancestors of the comments (because if you reply to a downvoted comment, that doesn't prevent it from later being upvoted). It adds an additional and uniquely nontransparent value.
Seems fine now.
*adding keywords to suck in ctrl+f karma: fixed,working,back,patch,works,repaired,restored,okay
I also seem to have increasing karma despite recent downvotes. I may just have missed some older positive votes, though.
The FAQ says "karma is mainly useful for letting people know how great you are." The (now disabled?) 'Karma for the last 30 days' tally suggests karma also has some relation to time.
I propose adding a function of karma decay. Over n-amount of time time, x-amount of karma is lost. This is also useful for letting people know how great you are.
I propose adding a function of karma decay. Over n-amount of time time, x-amount of karma is lost.
Loss aversion would make this upsetting, perhaps more upsetting than gaining karma is pleasing.
The site was seriously going to hell due to long troll-started threads and troll-feeding. It's not a good use-case when intelligent comments are hidden by default, either. And I now see that contrary to the feature request, it's only asking for 5 karma for immediate descendants, not anywhere in the chain, so I shall go now and ask that to be updated.
I don't want to train readers to unhide things by default just because they might miss intelligent conversation in subthreads, I don't want intelligent conversation in places it's hidden by default from readers trusting the site mechanics, I want this site to stop feeding its trolls and would prefer a community solution rather than moderators wielding banhammers, and I want this site to focus its efforts positively rather than in amazing impressive refutations of bad ideas which is a primary failure mode of any intelligent Internet site. Threads with heavily downvoted ancestors should almost always not exist, because of their opportunity costs, the behaviors they reinforce, and other long-term consequences.
If this particular effort proves insufficient, the next step will be to make it impossible for users less than three months old (or with less than 1000 karma or something) to see comments under -3 at all.
I don't want to train readers to unhide things by default just because they might miss intelligent conversation in subthreads
Another way of doing this would be a five second delay to unhide hidden comments. Waiting isn't fun and it prevents hyperbolic discounting from magnifying the positive reinforcement of reading something that someone doesn't want you to read.
Has anyone yet mentioned or reported that for the last couple days, the "karma for last 30 days" is showing zero for everyone? And that we no longer can see the top contributors for the last 30 days either?
Do we have an explanation or estimation for a bugfix on this?