I'm reluctant to frame engineering and philosophy as adversarial disciplines in this conversation as AI and ML research have long drawn on both. As an example, Minsky and Papert's work on the "Society of Mind" and Minsky's "Perceptrons" are hands that wash each other then reach forward to underpin much of what is now accepted in neural network research.
Moreover, there aren't just two disciplines feeding this sport; learnings have been taken from computer science, philosophy, psychology and neuroscience over the fifty odd years of AI work. The more successful ML shops have been using the higher order language of psychology to describe and intervene on operational aspects (in game AlphaGo, i.e.) and neuroscience to create the models (Hassabis, 2009).
I will be surprised if biological models of neurotransmitters don't make an appearance as an nth anchor in the next decade or so. These may well take inspiration from Patricia Churchland's decades long cross disciplinary work in philosophy and neuroscience. They may also draw from the intersection of psychology and neuroscience that is informing mental health treatments; both chemical and experiential.
This is all without getting into those fjords of philosophy in which many spend their time prioritising happiness over truth; ethics and morality... which is what I think this blogpost is really talking about when it says philosophy. Will connectionist modelling learn from and contribute to deontological, utilitarian, consequentialist and hedonistic ethics? I don't see how it cannot.
I'm a newcomer here, but this issue has been bothering me for some time. You're right that these aren't necessarily adverserial disciplines for many thinkers. The adversity can perhaps be expressed culturally: first, the financial economics of technological development leaves little room for philosophy, and second, people who have an intellectual predilection, plus the resources of time and energy, for engaging in cross-disciplinary thought are probably not prevalent among those doing the everyday, boots-on-the-ground work in AI/ML.
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Machine learning is touching increasingly many aspects of our society, and its effect will only continue to grow. Given this, I and many others care about risks from future ML systems and how to mitigate them.
When thinking about safety risks from ML, there are two common approaches, which I'll call the Engineering approach and the Philosophy approach:
I'll discuss these approaches mainly in the context of ML safety, but the same distinction applies in other areas. For instance, an Engineering approach to AI + Law might focus on how to regulate self-driving cars, while Philosophy might ask whether using AI in judicial decision-making could undermine liberal democracy.
While Engineering and Philosophy agree on some things, for the most part they make wildly different predictions both about what the key safety risks from ML will be and how we should address them:
In my experience, people who strongly subscribe to the Engineering worldview tend to think of Philosophy as fundamentally confused and ungrounded, while those who strongly subscribe to Philosophy think of most Engineering work as misguided and orthogonal (at best) to the long-term safety of ML. Given this sharp contrast and the importance of the problem, I've thought a lot about which—if either—is the "right" approach.
Coming in, I was mostly on the Engineering side, although I had more sympathy for Philosophy than the median ML researcher (who has ~0% sympathy for Philosophy). However, I now feel that:
On the other hand, I also feel that:
I've reached these conclusions through a combination of thinking, discussing with others, and observing empirical developments in ML since 2011 (when I entered the field). I've distilled my thoughts into a series of blog posts, where I'll argue that:
This post is the introduction to the series. I'll post the next part each Tuesday, and update this page with links once the post is up. In the meantime, leave comments with any thoughts you have, or contact me if you'd like to preview the upcoming posts and leave feedback.