Currently rereading the series, so I thought I'd point out something. Thanks for the reading suggestions in the text :).
At the beginning of Dune, we are told that the Great Schools come into existence after the Butlerian Jihad to replace the functions served by machines. While these are claimed to be 'human' functions they bear remarkable similarity to the functions of machines, and we can roughly categorize these as follows:
Navigators: Mathematics, pure abstraction.
Mentats: Computation, simulation and rejection of inconsistent alternatives. Logic. Bayesian reasoning.
Suks: Moral apathy.
Bene Gesserit: Command architecture.
My main problem is the suggestion that the Dune Universe is internally aware of and attempts to rectify Goodhart's Law, and that the process of doing so is the rejection of automation.
The existence of the Bene Gesserit and the ubiquitous spread of religion are to be taken as counterexamples to this point. We know that their main tools are politics and religion, two fields of rhetoric which can be seen as essentially manipulative in nature; their design is to enforce behaviorisms favorable to the Bene Gesserit using sex, mind control (Voice), and indoctrination. At numerous points in the Dune universe, the Bene Gesserit 'hack' human cognition with these tools, turning the people around them into pliable robots which do not think for themselves. We also know that there are multiple avenues by which this is done, through the OC Bible, the Missionaria Protectiva, the Zensunni and Zenshiite teachings, and the super-religion developed and realized by the Atreides. So to a large degree we can say that automation exists (in the sense of unthinking work), it is just that it is humans who are doing it, not machines. To reiterate, it is unthinkingly bureaucratic because laws are not open to interpretation, they are just shifted from processing signals mechanically to processing them religious-fundamentally.
Of course, the Bene Gesserit also make an important distinction: those who are not Bene Gesserit are not 'human'. They have not been tested in the manner of the Gom Jabbar. So the BG have no qualms about how they treat the 'subhumans' around them, as they are not the ultimate benefactors of their long-term vision of human survival. Ordinary humans are tools, but complex ones. Machines.
We may also take a moment to look at the Gom Jabbar as an example of an unthinking measurement of a signal which probably doesn't say all that much about humanity, and really just something about pain thresholds and early childhood training. We know that the Bene Gesserit disdain love and strictly follow their codified beliefs to the point that many would not consider rejecting their programming. So here they are put in a position of imposing a bad test which 'could' be wrong, but which is impassably automated by doctrine. The Fremen have the same custom. The Bene Gesserit, despite being 'human', are not immune to political programming via their Mother Superior.
With this in mind, I'd say that 'if' the Butlerian Jihad was aimed at ending automation, it totally failed. In fact, it failed so miserably that all it really did is make humans more like the machines they were trying to overcome. The ultimate realization of this is Muad'Dib's Imperium, where a man is trapped into a deterministic course by prescience and holds the Imperium under an extended theo-bureaucratic hegemony whose citizens are programmed by religious law. Arguably the point of Paul's story is that he finds a middle path between rejection of a rational objective, its acceptance, and a personal, irrational desire (irrational in the sense that it betrays the objective upheld by House Atreides, including the unwed Leto). He marries the woman he loves, when what may be better for Humanity is that he marry Irulan Corrino.
That is possibly the decidedly human thing the Butlerian Jihad was fought for. A thinking being with a subjective rationale.
So what else might have happened in the B. Jihad?
If we ignore the prequels, we have this of Leto II's experiences of the Jihad through firsthand memory:
"We must reject the machines-that-think. Humans must set their own guidelines. This is not something machines can do. Reasoning depends upon programming, not on hardware, and we are the ultimate program!"
1. We are the ultimate program
From this we could say that it was never the intention to remove programming, and thus automation. It was to follow the best program. So who had the best program? We can assume that the best program is the most reasonable and rational one.
2. Reasoning depends upon programming, not on hardware. This is not something machines can do.
Advances in computing can roughly be divided between hardware and software. The point made by this jihadi is that advances kept being made in machine hardware, so that they were faster and more efficient, but that at some point, humans failed to create reasoning machines. At least, the jihadis believed so. The thinking machines they created were imperfect in some way, whether lacking in emotion or creativity or consciousness or even so much as the ability to choose, or tell the difference between a turtle and a rifle. Humanity proved itself incapable of creating a machine as sophisticated as a human being.
3. We might guess at a reason for this by borrowing from other aspects of the Dune universe:
“Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.”
Almost entirely throughout the Dune series we are met with the idea of meeting our full potential through the application of stressors. It's basically a multi-book manifesto on post-traumatic growth. Whether it's the Fremen being shaped by Arrakis or the Atreides being shaped by the kindly tyranny of Leto II, the idea is that comfort, a lack of problems, leads downward to eternal stagnation. I would suggest that this is what happened in the Butlerian Jihad: humans reached a point where machines were as smart as they were going to get. Humans were not smart enough to make machines smarter, and humans weren't getting any smarter themselves. Because they had reached their technological epitome, they lived decadent lives with few stressors. In a utopian society, they were essentially ham-stringed, incapable of speeding up space-flight beyond pre-spice levels. Much like at the end of Leto II's reign, their pent-up wanderlust (which we can assume is a real thing in the Dune universe) reached a tipping point. We don't know if the spice had been discovered at this point. But it is probable, given the nature of the Dune universe, that in such a condition humanity looked for ways beyond machines, such as the spice, to break through the barriers imposed by technological dependency. Thus there was the first scattering that created the Corrino Imperium.
I basically believe this because in explains the most perplexing and otherwise inconsistent phrases in the series:
"They were all caught up in the need of their race to renew its scattered inheritance, to cross and mingle and infuse their bloodlines in a great new pooling of genes. And the race knew only one sure way for this - the ancient way, the tried and certain way that rolled over everything in its path: jihad."
One might accept that there was resistance from machines led by humans who opposed the Jihad, leading to a war (remember, machines do not have volition), or, as in the prequels, operating according to the programming of the power-hungry.
It's almost like an anti-singularity: rather than machines outpacing human thinking, humans reach a point where they cannot compute a way forward that includes the existence of machines. So they removed that constant in the equation, and formulate a new one. Much like with spice, they developed a dangerous dependency that prevented them from expanding. The jihad was an erasure of this dependency, just as the Atreides Jihad eventually erased dependency on spice.
If there is any lesson in that for budding rationalists, I'd say it is this: it is dangerous to have a single source of prosperity, be it a machine or a drug. This creates a fragile system with an upper limit on progress. Instead, we need to have an options-mindset that recognizes rationality works best when paired with numerous choices. Accept that AI is not the sole means of automation available to us, nor is it inherently a bad option; there are just other means we must consider in parallel, or the way before us may narrow into a single, terrible way forward: backward.
I've always been surprised that there's not more discussion of Dune in rationalist circles, especially considering that:
1. It's a book all about people improving their minds to the point where they become superhuman.
2. It's set in a world where AI Goal Alignment issues are not only widely understood, but are integrated into the foundation of every society.
3. It's ecological science fiction — dedicated to "the dry-land ecologists, wherever they may be" — but what that secretly means is that it's a series of novels about existential risk, and considers the problem on a timescale of tens of thousands of years.
For those of you who are not familiar, Dune is set about 20,000 years in the future. About 10,000 years before the events of the first book, Strong Artificial Intelligence was developed. As one might expect, humanity nearly went extinct. But we pulled together and waged a 100-year war against the machines, a struggle known as the Butlerian Jihad (This is why a butler is “one who destroys intelligent machines”). We succeeded, but only barely, and the memory of the struggle was embedded deep within the human psyche. Every religion and every culture set up prohibitions against "thinking machines". This was so successful that the next ten millennia saw absolutely no advances in computing, and despite the huge potential benefits of defection, coordination was strong enough to prevent any resurgence of computing technology.
Surprisingly, the prohibition against "thinking machines" appears to extend not only to what we would consider to be Strong AI, but also to computers of all sorts. There is evidence that devices for recording journals (via voice recording?) and doing basic arithmetic were outlawed as well. The suggestion is that there is not a single mechanical calculator or electronic memory-storage device in the entire Imperium. There are advanced technologies, but nothing remotely like computers — the Orange Catholic Bible is printed on "filament paper", not stored on a Kindle.
While I appreciate the existential threat posed by Strong AI, I've always been confused about the proscription against more basic forms of automation. The TI-81 is pretty helpful and not at all threatening. Storing records on paper or filament paper has serious downsides. Why does this society hamstring themselves in this way?
The characters have a good deal to say about the Butlerian Jihad, but to me, their answers were always somewhat confusing:
And:
This doesn't suggest that literal extinction threat is the only reason for the Jihad. In fact, according to these major characters, it wasn't even the primary reason.
This is not to say that extinction risk isn't on their mind. Here's another idea discussed in the books, and condemned for its obvious x-risk issues:
Or, more explicitly:
But clearly extinction risk isn't the only thing driving the proscription against thinking machines. If it were, then we'd still have our pocket calculators and still be able to index our libraries using electronic databases. But this society has outlawed even these relatively simple machines. Why?
Goodhart's law states that when a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure.
What this means is that the act of defining a standard almost always destroys the goal you were trying to define. If you make a test for aptitude, teachers and parents will teach to the test. The parents with the most resources — richest/most intelligent/most well-connected — will find ways to get their children ahead at the expense of everyone else. If you require a specific degree to get a particular job, degree-granting institutions will compete to make the degree easier and easier to acquire, to the point where it no longer indicates quality. If supply is at all limited, then the job-seekers who are richest/most intelligent/most well-connected will be the ones who can get the degree. If you set a particular critical threshold for a statistical measure (*cough*), researchers will sacrifice whatever positive qualities about the rest of their research they can in pursuit of reaching that critical threshold.
One of the most important things we know from AI Alignment work is that defining a rule or standard that can't be misinterpreted is very tricky. An intelligent agent will work very hard to maximize its own utility function, and will find clever ways around any rules you throw in its way.
One of the ways we have been short-sighted is in thinking that this applies only to strong or general artificial intelligences. Humans are strong general intelligences; if you put rules or standards in their way, they will work very hard to maximize their own utility functions and will find clever ways around the rules. Goodhart's law is the AI Alignment problem applied to other people.
("The real AI Alignment problem ... is other people?")
It's been proposed that this issue is the serpent gnawing at the root of our culture. The long and somewhat confusing version of the argument is here. I would strongly recomend that you read first (or instead) this summary by Nabil ad Dajjal. As Scott says, "if only there were something in between Nabil’s length and Concierge’s", but reading the two I think we can get a pretty good picture.
Here are the first points, from Nabil:
I will resist quoting it in full. Seriously, go read it, it's pretty short.
When I finished reading this explanation, I had a religious epiphany. This is what the Butlerian Jihad was about. While AI may literally present an extinction risk because of its potential desire to use the atoms in our bodies for its own purposes, lesser forms of AI — including something as simple as a device that can compare two numbers! — are dangerous because of their need for legible signals.
In fact, the simpler the agent is, the more dangerous it is, because simple systems need their signals to be extremely legible. Agents that make decisions based on legible signals are extra susceptible to Goodhart's law, and accelerate us on our way to the signaling catastophe/race to the bottom/end of all that is right and good/etc.
As Nabil ad Dajjal points out, this is true for bureaucrats as well as for machines. It doesn't require what we normally think of as a "computer". Anything that uses a legible signal to make a decision with no or little flexibility will contribute to this problem.
As a strong example, consider Scott Aaronson's review of Inadequate Equilibria, where he says:
Together, this suggests a surprising conclusion: Rationalists should be against automation. I suspect that, for many of us, this is an uncomfortable suggestion. Many rationalists are programmers or engineers. Those of us who are not are probably still hackers of one subject or another, and have as a result internalized the hacker ethic.
If you're a hacker, you strongly believe that no problem should ever have to be solved twice, and that boredom and drudgery are evil. These are strong points, perhaps the strongest points, in favor of automation. The world is full of fascinating problems waiting to be solved, and we shouldn't waste the talents of the most gifted among us solving the same problems over and over. If you automate it once, and do it right, you can free up talents to work on the next problem. Repeat this until you've hit all of humanity's problems, boom, utopia achieved.
The problem is that the talents of the most gifted are being double-wasted in our current system. First, intelligent people spend huge amounts of time and effort attempting to automate a system. Given that we aren't even close to being able to solve the AI Alignment problem, the attempt to properly automate the system always fails, and the designers instead automate the system so that it uses one or more legible signals to make its judgment. Now that this system is in place, it is immediately captured by Goodhart's law, and people begin inventing ways to get around it.
Second, the intelligent and gifted people — those people who are most qualified to make the judgment they are trying to automate — are spending their time trying to automate a system that they are (presumably) qualified to make judgments for! Couldn't we just cut out the middleman, and when making decisions about the most important issues that face our society, give intelligent and gifted people these jobs directly?
So we're 1) wasting intellectual capital, by 2) using it to make the problem it's trying to solve subject to Goodhart's law and therefore infinitely worse.
Attempts to solve this problem with machine learning techniques are possibly worse. This is essentially just automating the task of finding a legible signal, with predictable results. It's hard to say if a neural network will tend to find a worse legible signal than the programmer would find on their own, but it's not a bet I would take. Further, it lets programmers automate more decisions, lets them do it faster, and prevents them from understanding the legible signal(s) they select. That doesn't inspire comfort.
Please also consider the not-literally-automation version, as described by Scott Alexander in his daycare worker example:
Things like race, gender, and class are all extremely legible signals. They're hard to fake, and they're easy to read. So if society seems more racist/sexist/classist/politically bigoted than it was, consider the idea that it may be the result of runaway automation. Or machine-attitude, as God Emperor Leto II would say.
I mentioned before that, unlike problems with Strong AI, this weak-intelligence-Goodhart-problem (SchwachintelligenzGoodhartproblem?) isn't an existential risk. The bureaucrats and the standardized tests aren't going to kill us in order to maximize the amount of hydrogen in the universe. Right?
But if we consider crunches to be a form of x-risk, then this may be an x-risk after all. This problem has already infected "everything from school and work to friendships and dating" making us "older, poorer, and more exhausted". Not satisfied with this, we're currently doing our best to make it more 'efficient' in the areas it already holds sway, and working hard to extend it to new areas. If taken to its logical conclusion, we may successfully automate nearly everything, and destroy our ability to make any progress at all.
I'll take this opportunity to reiterate what I mean by automation. I suspect that when I say "automate nearly everything", many of you imagine some sort of ascended economy, with robotic workers and corporate AI central planners. But part of the issue here is that Goodhart's law is very flexible, and kicks in with the introduction of most rules, even when the rules are very simple.
Literal machines make this easier — a program that says "only forward job applicants if they indicated they have a Master's Degree and 2+ years of experience" is simple, but potentially very dangerous. But on the other hand, a rule about what sorts of applicants will be considered can be identical when faithfully applied by a single-minded bureaucrat. The point is that the decision has been automated to a legible signal. Machines just make this easier, faster, and more difficult to ignore. All but the most extreme bureaucrats will occasionally break protocol. Automation by machine will never do so.
So we want two closely related things:
1. We want to avoid the possible x-risk from automation.
2. We want to reverse the whole "hollowed out the entirety of modern society" thing and make life feel meaningful again.
The good news is that there are some relatively easy solutions.
First, stop automating things or suggesting that things should be automated. Reverse automation wherever possible. (As suggested by Noitamotua.)
There may be some areas where automation is safe and beneficial. But before automating something, please spend some time thinking about whether or not the legible signal is too simple, whether the automation will be susceptible to Goodhart's law. Only in cases where the legible signal is effectively identical to the value you actually want, or where the cost of an error is low ("you must be this tall to ride" is a legible signal) will this be acceptable.
Second, there are personal and political systems which are designed to deal with this problem. Goodhart's law is powerless against a reasonable person. While you or I might take someone's education into consideration when deciding whether or not to offer them a job, we would weigh it in a complex, hard-to-define way against the other evidence available.
Let's continue the hiring decision metaphor. More important than ignoring credentials is the ability to participate in the intellectual arms race, exactly the problem fixed rules cannot follow (Goodhart's law!). If I am in charge of hiring programmers, I might want to give them a simple coding test as part of their interview. I might ask, "If I have two strings, how do I check if they are anagrams of each other?" If I use the same coding test every time (or I automate it, setting up a website version of the test to screen candidates before in-person interviews), then anyone who knows my pattern can figure out or look up the answer ahead of time, and the question no longer screens for programming ability — it screens for whatever "can figure out or look up the answer ahead of time" is.
But when you are a real human being, not a bureaucrat or automaton, you can vary the test, ask questions that haven't been asked before, and engage in the arms race. If you are very smart, you may invent a test which no one has ever thought of before.
So by this view, the correct thing to do is to replace automation with the most intelligent people available, and have them personally engaged with their duty — rather than having them acting as an administrator, as often happens under our current system.
Some people ask, what genre is Dune? It's set in the far future; there are spaceships, lasers, and nuclear weapons. But most of the series focuses on liege-vassal relationships, scheming, and religious orders with magic powers. This sounds a lot more like fantasy, right?
Clearly, Dune is Political Science Fiction. Science fiction proposes spectacular advances in science and, as a result, technology. But political thought is also a technology:
So what Dune has done is thought about wild new political technologies, in the same way that most science fiction thinks about wild new physical technologies (or chemical, or biological, etc.).
The Confucian Heuristic (which you should read, entirely on its own merits) describes a political system built on personal relationships. According to this perspective, Confucius hated unjust inequality. Unlike the western solution, which is to destroy all forms of inequality, Confucius rejected that as impossible. Instead, he proposed that we recognize and promote gifted individuals, and make them extremely aware of their duties to the rest of us. (Seriously, just read it!)
In a way, Dune is Confucian as well, or perhaps Neo-Confucian, as Stephenson might say. It presents a society that has been stable for 10,000 years, based largely on feudal principles, and which has arranged itself in such a way that it has kept a major, lurking x-risk at bay.
One way of thinking about Goodhart's law is that it says that any automated system can and will be gamed as quickly and ruthlessly as possible. Using human authorities rather than rules is the only safeguard, since the human can participate in the intellectual arms race with the people trying to get around the regulation; they can interpret the rules in their spirit rather than in their letter. No one will get far rules-lawyering the king.
The people who will be most effective at Goodhart-gaming a system will be those with starting advantages. This includes the rich, but also those with more intelligence, better social connections, etc., etc. So one problem with automation is that it always favors the aristocracy. Whoever has advantages will, on average, see them magnified by being the best at gaming automated systems.
The Confucian solution to inequality is to tie aristocrats into meaningful personal relationships with their inferiors. The problem with automation is that it unfairly benefits aristocrats and destroys the very idea of a meaningful personal relationship.
I've argued that we need to use human judgment in place of legible signals, and that we should recruit the most gifted people to do so. But giving all the decision-making power to an intellectual elite comes with its own problems. If we're going to recruit elites to replace our automated decision-making, we should make use of a political technology specifically designed to deal with this situation.
I'm not saying that we need to introduce elective fealty, per se. My short-term suggestion, however, would be that you don't let those in positions of power over you pretend that they are your equal. Choosing to attach yourself to someone powerful in exchange for protection is entirely left to your discretion.
Of course, what I really think we should do is bring back sumptuary laws.
Sumptuary laws keep individuals of a certain class from purchasing or using certain goods, including clothing. People tend to think of sumptuary laws as keeping low-class people from pretending to be high-class people, even if they're rich enough to fake it. The story goes that this was a big problem during the late middle ages, because merchants were often richer than barons and counts, but you couldn't let them get away with pretending to be noble.
The Confucian view is that sumptuary laws can keep high-class people from pretending to be low-class people, and attempting to dodge the responsibilities that come with it. Think of the billionaire chicken farmer wearing overalls and a straw hat. Is he just ol' Joe from up the road? Or was he born with a fortune he doesn't deserve?
Confucians would say that a major problem with our current system is that elites are able to pretend that they aren't elite. They see themselves as, while personally gifted, equal in opportunity to the rest of us, and as a result on an equal playing field. They think that they don't owe us anything, and try to convince us to feel the same way.
I like to think of this as the "Donald-Trump-should-be-forced-to-wear-gold-and-jewels-wherever-he-goes" rule. Or if you're of a slightly different political bent, "If-Zuckerberg-wears-another-plain-grey-T-Shirt-I-will-throw-a-fit-who-does-he-think-he's-fooling" rule.
This viewpoint also strikes a surprising truce between mistake and conflict theorists. Mistake theorists are making the mistake of thinking there is no conflict occurring, of letting "elites" pretend that they're part of the "people". Conflict theorists are making the mistake of thinking that tearing down inequality is desirable or even possible.
If you found any of this interesting, I would suggest that you read Dune and its immediate sequels (up to Chapterhouse, but not the junk Herbert's son wrote). If nothing else, consider that despite being published in 1965, it predicted AI threat and x-risk more generally as a major concern for the future of humanity. I promise there are other topics of interest there.
If you found any of this convincing, I strongly recommend that you fight against automation and legible signals whenever possible. Only fully realized human beings have the ability to pragmatically interpret a rule or guideline in the way it was intended. If we ever crack Strong AI, that may change — but safe to say, at that point we will have a new set of problems!
And in regards to the machines: