We work with vulnerable teenagers at an association JACOMINESP and we would like to help with the blind spots. We're working on a system (using the mental ship metaphor) that not only encourages self-awareness but also gradually develops decision-making techniques. We invite to co creation an algorithm that promotes automatic calibration “One Pace” at a time, to help choose better paths and avoid acting too late to seize an opportunity, people fail as much because of:
- false positives
as because of
-false negatives.
To begin, we want to know if you, reader, would bet if, with a map of their territory, of their crew, the teenagers could manage their constantly changing attention in the face of the violent sea of randomness.
We work with the hypothesis that the main problem of teenegers lies not in misaligned attention due to incoherence, but rather in multiple legitimate processes (agents/crew) competing for a scarce resource (attention/rudder) without a clear map. Therefore, this misalignment would be closely linked to the dispute over resources and lack of coordination among agents.
The conflict between multiple agents increases.
↓
The noise increases
↓
Direction is lost…
Examples:
Competition
Two agents:
One wants to take the ship and recover it
The other wants to study reality
Both claim priority.
Lack of coordination
No one fights.
But they don't collaborate either.
Example:
Opening networks
Changing topics
Procrastinating
Energy is dispersed.
Alignment
The agents collaborate.
The action is almost automatic.
A state similar to flow.
That's why we're working on a navigation system to allocate attention under uncertainty. The central idea is: the mind is the ship on course, attention is the rudder, and the crew may be uncoordinated or competing to steer the ship. And on a ship, resources can be scarce.
We want a system that helps answer the question: How do we distinguish whether the spacecraft needs to explore, align, train, or simply act?
Literature review in LessWrong
I reviewed some posts here on Lesswrong and started with an idea that could unify a bit more the whole productivity philosophy we have encountered in something mechanically designed, using processes similar to something we saw here:
I reviewed several productivity and mapping proposals we found here on LessWrong, and each one had interesting points we could incorporate. we want to briefly present each idea, its key question of what it's about, and then a proposal for unifying a little more for they.
Minsky , Society of Mind asks: How is the mind constructed?
- how a society of simple agents forms hierarchies and teams.
What's missing? It doesn't explain where that society is headed, or how it organizes itself for external purposes.
Dehaene / GNW , Consciousness and the Brain asks: How do agents compete for consciousness?
- Through a global workspace where only one piece of content can be visible at a time.
What's missing? It's a static amphitheater: it describes the competition, but not the direction or the course.
Schwartz (IFS) , Internal Family Systems asks: How do the parts heal?
- Each part is an agent with its own intentions; healing comes from listening and the leadership of the Self.
What's missing? It's therapeutic, not a planner. It doesn't connect with daily goals or specific tasks.
Culadasa / TMI , The Mind Illuminated asks: How to train sustained attention?
-Through progressive levels of introspection and distraction control.
What's missing? It trains the instrument (attention) but doesn't connect it to a map of external objectives.
Kaj Sotala / A Mechanistic Model of Meditation asks: How does introspection detect conflicts between subsystems?
- A sensory channel that improves with practice, revealing competence among internal agents.
What's missing? There's no protocol to translate that detection into organized action towards goals.
GTD / OKRs / Classical Productivity asks:
How to organize goals and tasks?
- Hierarchies of goals and concrete actions.
What's missing? It doesn't model the internal agents that block execution. It's like having a map without knowing the ship's status the mission and the vision of the person.
“One Pace” , What question? How do we translate an abstract purpose into a temporary coalition of attention that produces concrete actions?
- Taking into account the competition, the division by agents (IFS), and the ways to align them, the workspace (amphitheater) and giving it direction (ship). It would detect at what level of the ship or territory there is a mutiny over the helm and organize them so that the agents cooperate towards the course; for that we assume that the course would have to be increasingly precise and recalibrated.
What's missing?...
Metaphor
We wondered if they could achieve greater focus, less perceived internal conflict, and more clarity by choosing micro-actions with a well-structured roadmap, based on their medium- and long-term personal vision and mission, and on recalibrating their goals and path. From conquering the treasure of "One Piece" and becoming the "King of the Pirates" to "cleaning the helm." (Of course, the original anime cannot be interpreted or used literally; perhaps a parody would have to be created.)
We want to discover if, with a map of their territory, of the crew, they could manage their constantly shifting attention in the face of the violent sea of randomness.
We want to know if, with the kind of maps and definitions we will propose here, they could navigate with greater precision, if they could better steer their own course.
Algorithm starts with:
We have been treating the mind as a complex control system to reduce rumination before meditation and we are working on it, and I'll post briefly if there's community interest in discussing or developing something similar together. But first, I'd need to know if:
Could we treat the mind as a complex system that we could map and better understand?
Could we map the stages of focus in: input, process, output, and feedback?
Could we map complex functional layers, such as: bodily-reactive, intellectual-predictive, motivational-evaluative, or social-identity?
We are currently working with cybernetics and systems theory as a foundation and we would like help reviewing its coherence and cost-benefit analysis.
Conclusion
I don't know if it will work, but I'd like to talk about how to begin testing whether systems theory applied to adolescent attention and desicion make would be useful.
Perhaps we could outline a specific experiment to consider how to test it and avoid getting lost in abstractions.
For example, a crossover experiment (N=1) (EEG) comparing classical labeling with this systemic mapping of attention as preparation for meditation.
We work with vulnerable teenagers at an association JACOMINESP and we would like to help with the blind spots. We're working on a system (using the mental ship metaphor) that not only encourages self-awareness but also gradually develops decision-making techniques. We invite to co creation an algorithm that promotes automatic calibration “One Pace” at a time, to help choose better paths and avoid acting too late to seize an opportunity, people fail as much because of:
- false positives
as because of
-false negatives.
To begin, we want to know if you, reader, would bet if, with a map of their territory, of their crew, the teenagers could manage their constantly changing attention in the face of the violent sea of randomness.
#calibration #forecasting #Mindfulness #internal_family_systems #cybernetics #agent_coordination
Introduccion
We work with the hypothesis that the main problem of teenegers lies not in misaligned attention due to incoherence, but rather in multiple legitimate processes (agents/crew) competing for a scarce resource (attention/rudder) without a clear map. Therefore, this misalignment would be closely linked to the dispute over resources and lack of coordination among agents.
The conflict between multiple agents increases.
↓
The noise increases
↓
Direction is lost…
Examples:
Competition
Two agents:
One wants to take the ship and recover it
The other wants to study reality
Both claim priority.
Lack of coordination
No one fights.
But they don't collaborate either.
Example:
Opening networks
Changing topics
Procrastinating
Energy is dispersed.
Alignment
The agents collaborate.
The action is almost automatic.
A state similar to flow.
That's why we're working on a navigation system to allocate attention under uncertainty. The central idea is: the mind is the ship on course, attention is the rudder, and the crew may be uncoordinated or competing to steer the ship. And on a ship, resources can be scarce.
We want a system that helps answer the question: How do we distinguish whether the spacecraft needs to explore, align, train, or simply act?
Literature review in LessWrong
I reviewed some posts here on Lesswrong and started with an idea that could unify a bit more the whole productivity philosophy we have encountered in something mechanically designed, using processes similar to something we saw here:
From Philosophy to math to engineering
I reviewed several productivity and mapping proposals we found here on LessWrong, and each one had interesting points we could incorporate. we want to briefly present each idea, its key question of what it's about, and then a proposal for unifying a little more for they.
Minsky , Society of Mind asks: How is the mind constructed?
- how a society of simple agents forms hierarchies and teams.
What's missing? It doesn't explain where that society is headed, or how it organizes itself for external purposes.
Dehaene / GNW , Consciousness and the Brain asks: How do agents compete for consciousness?
- Through a global workspace where only one piece of content can be visible at a time.
What's missing? It's a static amphitheater: it describes the competition, but not the direction or the course.
Schwartz (IFS) , Internal Family Systems asks: How do the parts heal?
- Each part is an agent with its own intentions; healing comes from listening and the leadership of the Self.
What's missing? It's therapeutic, not a planner. It doesn't connect with daily goals or specific tasks.
Culadasa / TMI , The Mind Illuminated asks: How to train sustained attention?
-Through progressive levels of introspection and distraction control.
What's missing? It trains the instrument (attention) but doesn't connect it to a map of external objectives.
Kaj Sotala / A Mechanistic Model of Meditation asks: How does introspection detect conflicts between subsystems?
- A sensory channel that improves with practice, revealing competence among internal agents.
What's missing? There's no protocol to translate that detection into organized action towards goals.
GTD / OKRs / Classical Productivity asks:
How to organize goals and tasks?
- Hierarchies of goals and concrete actions.
What's missing? It doesn't model the internal agents that block execution. It's like having a map without knowing the ship's status the mission and the vision of the person.
“One Pace” , What question? How do we translate an abstract purpose into a temporary coalition of attention that produces concrete actions?
- Taking into account the competition, the division by agents (IFS), and the ways to align them, the workspace (amphitheater) and giving it direction (ship). It would detect at what level of the ship or territory there is a mutiny over the helm and organize them so that the agents cooperate towards the course; for that we assume that the course would have to be increasingly precise and recalibrated.
What's missing?...
Metaphor
We wondered if they could achieve greater focus, less perceived internal conflict, and more clarity by choosing micro-actions with a well-structured roadmap, based on their medium- and long-term personal vision and mission, and on recalibrating their goals and path. From conquering the treasure of "One Piece" and becoming the "King of the Pirates" to "cleaning the helm." (Of course, the original anime cannot be interpreted or used literally; perhaps a parody would have to be created.)
We want to discover if, with a map of their territory, of the crew, they could manage their constantly shifting attention in the face of the violent sea of randomness.
We want to know if, with the kind of maps and definitions we will propose here, they could navigate with greater precision, if they could better steer their own course.
Algorithm starts with:
We have been treating the mind as a complex control system to reduce rumination before meditation and we are working on it, and I'll post briefly if there's community interest in discussing or developing something similar together. But first, I'd need to know if:
Could we treat the mind as a complex system that we could map and better understand?
Could we map the stages of focus in: input, process, output, and feedback?
Could we map complex functional layers, such as: bodily-reactive, intellectual-predictive, motivational-evaluative, or social-identity?
We are currently working with cybernetics and systems theory as a foundation and we would like help reviewing its coherence and cost-benefit analysis.
Conclusion
I don't know if it will work, but I'd like to talk about how to begin testing whether systems theory applied to adolescent attention and desicion make would be useful.
Perhaps we could outline a specific experiment to consider how to test it and avoid getting lost in abstractions.
For example, a crossover experiment (N=1) (EEG) comparing classical labeling with this systemic mapping of attention as preparation for meditation.